09 Feb '13 20:18>
Originally posted by black beetleFundamentally, we cannot empirically verify something without using a human consciousness at some point. On the first page of this thread I said:
I had the feeling that the wf itself is just an idea of ours, an ideal mathematical model brought up into existence solely out of our consciousness. I was sure it exists thanks to our consciousness alone, as it is not a physical entity. Also, methinks we can use this specific product of ours solely if we use our cognitive apparatus. So, kindly please ed ...[text shortened]... hat it may be found in state with probability p3" and so on
without using our consciousness😵
Humans play no role in quantum mechanics. This is more of a philosophical viewpoint than an empirical one; clearly humans can never observe something without a human interfering at some point.
It just seems odd to me that the development of consciousness would so fundamentally have altered the universe. In the end it boils down to a form of last week thursday-ism: what if the universe and all living things, memories, etc. was created last week thursday? Would we know? Well, I guess not. Is it a meaningful hypothesis? Well, not really.