Originally posted by @christopher-albonI like three. Three means real. Three means real. Three means real.
I believe time springs from the true value of 3 being dependent on one's position in the universe. If there is not an absolute value of 3 then it can be said we only have a probability of having 3 of anything which gives the illusion of time.
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Originally posted by @apathisthow does that make time not a physical dimension?
We can at least theoretically move freely through physical dimensions. We can not move freely through time. We can only be here now.
Where is the logical contradiction in there being a physical dimension that is such that we have no control over how we 'move' in it? There is nothing in the normal and generally accepted every-day meaning of the word 'dimension' most people attribute to that word that implies that this is impossible. I don't understand why you feel the need to give the word 'dimension' a none standard meaning that most people would disagree with. Such a none standard meaning is invalid precisely because most people would disagree with it.
Originally posted by @fabianfnasChange happens. Things change. Time is nothing other than our measurement of change. We see a past, a present, a future. But we are not free to move around within time. We can only be here now.
Time as being a temporal dimension exists in physical reality as it takes time to read this posting.
Physical dimensions allow freedom of movement. Up down left right to and fro. A lot of scifi junk assumes this must be true of the time dimension as well. But time is not a physical dimension, it is a math dimension, so however profound you may find time-travel stories, they are ultimately stupid.
Originally posted by @humyThe normal and generally accepted every-day meaning of the term 'dimension' is mathematical!
how does that make time not a physical dimension?
Where is the logical contradiction in there being a physical dimension that is such that we have no control over how we 'move' in it? There is nothing in the normal and generally accepted every-day meaning of the 'dimension' most people attribute to that word that implies that this is impossible.
But we don't need math to recognize the spatial dimensions. Even bugs and plants recognize them. A brute fact. Space has three dimensions.
Originally posted by @apathistSpatial dimensions have their properties, temporal dimensions has other properties. I don't say there are exactly the same, they differ.
Change happens. Things change. Time is [b]nothing other than our measurement of change. We see a past, a present, a future. But we are not free to move around within time. We can only be here now.
Physical dimensions allow freedom of movement. Up down left right to and fro. A lot of scifi junk assumes this must be true of the time dimension as well. ...[text shortened]... ath dimension, so however profound you may find time-travel stories, they are ultimately stupid.[/b]
Think about an universe without the temporal dimension. Nothing much would happen.
Originally posted by @apathistIf you can only be here and now, then you cannot move freely through space. You need time for that.
We can not move freely through time. We can only be here now.
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Originally posted by @apathistTry twatting a triangle into a circle. The three fell off when I did it. It looked a bit ****ity so I twatted it. But it was already like that, honest!
I like three. Three means real. Three means real. Three means real.
Originally posted by @fabianfnasYou are right, but now we're talking about math. The past and the future do not exist, and that fact should lead you to rethink. Change happens, but it happens now.
Spatial dimensions have their properties, temporal dimensions has other properties. I don't say there are exactly the same, they differ.
Think about an universe without the temporal dimension. Nothing much would happen.
Originally posted by @christopher-albonI've coded. Keep tri-ing, and you get a circle.
Try twatting a triangle into a circle. The three fell off when I did it. It looked a bit ****ity so I twatted it. But it was already like that, honest!
Originally posted by @twhiteheadRemember, from my view, what time is. Remember? Certainly it is no block towards free movement through 3-d space.
If you can only be here and now, then you cannot move freely through space. You need time for that.
Originally posted by @apathistI'm not talking about math. I'm talking the reality. Math is a good approximation of this reality though.
You are right, but now we're talking about math. The past and the future do not exist, and that fact should lead you to rethink. Change happens, but it happens now.
If you say that the past does not exist - them how would you be born?
If you say that the future does not exist - will you never die?
Of course you will.
Do you know when you was born. Yes, you do.
Will you know when you will die? You don't, but others will know eventually.
Originally posted by @fabianfnasI'm a fan of math. Sometimes it is a good approximation of this reality, but sometimes it isn't. How do you tell the difference?
I'm not talking about math. I'm talking the reality. Math is a good approximation of this reality though.
If you say that the past does not exist - them how would you be born?
If you say that the future does not exist - will you never die?
Of course you will.
Do you know when you was born. Yes, you do.
Will you know when you will die? You don't, but others will know eventually.
Your questions, have you never met tense?