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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
when it pertains to nature

so now you answer his questions by defining what you mean with circular definitions which, being circular, defines absolutely nothing! If I asked what you mean by the word/statement X and you answer Y and then I ask what you mean by word/statement Y and you say X, logically, you haven't clarified anything in your last answer because in is plainly obvious to me and everyone else that if you have x=y then that mean y=x ! and saying x=y and y=x doesn't by itself do anything to explain what x or y actually is!

Thanks for explaining to us that x=y means y=x (what a revelation! 😛 ) but, to explain what you mean, you must do just a bit more than that because you must break out of the circle!

Originally posted by humy
so now you answer his questions by defining what you mean with circular definitions which, being circular, defines absolutely nothing! If I asked what you mean by the word/statement X and you answer Y and then I ask what you mean by word/statement Y and you say X, logically, you haven't clarified anything in your last answer because in is plainly obvious to me ...[text shortened]... o explain what x or y actually is!
To explain what you mean, you must break out of the circle!

He asked a question and he got an answer, what am I, the Oracle of Delphi?

Please dont be offended but I find your use of algebraic equations hilarious.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
He asked a question and he got an answer, what am I, the Oracle of Delphi?

The answer he got was pointless because it explained nothing.

Originally posted by humy
The answer he got was pointless because it explained nothing.

On the contrary it answered his question.

Originally posted by humy
you just repeat the same logical flaws.

there is no logical flaws in my stance, in fact the logic is so sound that its unassailable.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
He asked a question and he got an answer, what am I, the Oracle of Delphi?

Please dont be offended but I find your use of algebraic equations hilarious.

You didn't answer the question, you rephrased it.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
On the contrary it answered his question.

...an answer that explains nothing.

it is like me using symbol x in an equation of physics and you ask what does variable x physically represent? and I answer y. Then you ask what does variable y physically represent? and I answer x 😛 see the problem with that? -the 'answer' doesn't tell you what you want to know because it is just circular!

Originally posted by humy
...an answer that explains nothing.

A great arteest very rarely explains his work, you see, my statements are a vehicle for the imagination. If I went around explaining everything there would be no room left for the adherent to apply his own powers of deduction, he would be naught but a spoon fed child, intellectually stunted instead of a beacon of curiosity.

Originally posted by humy
...an answer that explains nothing.

it is like me using symbol x in an equation of physics and you ask what does variable x physically represent? and I answer y. Then you ask what does variable y physically represent? and I answer x 😛 see the problem with that? -the 'answer' doesn't tell you what you want to know because it is just circular!

please see the above.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
A great arteest very rarely explains his work, you see, my statements are a vehicle for the imagination. If I went around explaining everything there would be no room left for the adherent to apply his own powers of deduction, he would be naught but a spoon fed child, intellectually stunted instead of a beacon of curiosity.

A great artist very rarely explains his work, you see, my statements are a vehicle for the imagination. (spelling corrected )

LOL 🙂
So you are saying that what you say cannot have any clear definable meaning because its not stating facts nor reason but is actually art (poetry I presume? ) from a great artist.
Well, I glad you cleared that up then. How extremely stupid of me to ask you to define the exact logical meaning of your great works of art! No wonder you cannot explain what you mean by it!-IT IS ART stupid!!! How dare I criticize you great works of art! Shame on me.
But why did you not tell me much earlier and let me look so foolish for so long? -that was just gruel!
I take it this is modern art? I confess I have never understand modern art; it always just all looks like nonsense to me.

Originally posted by humy

A great artist very rarely explains his work, you see, my statements are a vehicle for the imagination. (spelling corrected )

[b]LOL 🙂
So you are saying that what you say cannot have any clear definable meaning because its not stating facts nor reason but is actually art (poetry I presume? ) from a great artist.
Well, I glad you clea ...[text shortened]... art? I confess I have never understand modern art; it always just all looks like nonsense to me.[/b]

modern art is conceptual, it seeks to appeal to the mind rather than the eye and is seen as a kind of imposition of the human intellect as opposed to being mere mimicry of nature which concerned the earlier painters and sculptors, pottery makers, producers of jewellery and ceramics etc. The problem is that its not open to the uninitiated for in order for one to understand why Picasso painted cubist paintings or returned to primitivism one needs to understand the context, but to the casual viewer the paintings look strange, even contrived. I suspect its the same in physics in that there are so many levels of understanding and the more one endeavours to unravel its mysteries the more specialised ones field of expertise becomes.

I could offer a definitive meaning to what I mean but to leave it open to interpretation is both a blessing and a curse for in invites differing perspectives which appeals but leaves the premise open to supposition and even imposition, I dunno whether either is a good idea. I dont even know what I am doing in the science forum for I seem to have found myself here by pure chance.