1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    24 Nov '13 05:11
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Back with the same lame response. Well I care and a lot of other people do too. We want to know WHY there is a black hole in the center of the Milky way and what is on the other side of the black hole.

    You say you are interested in science except for that which refutes your brand of YEC but this has nothing to do with any of that so it shouldn't shake your timbers to think about it.
    There is no proof that a black hole exixts. That is just an opinion, just speculation, just a guess, not proven science.

    The Instructor
  2. Subscribersonhouse
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    24 Nov '13 12:17
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    There is no proof that a black hole exixts. That is just an opinion, just speculation, just a guess, not proven science.

    The Instructor
    And of course we should believe your pronouncements because of your intense interest in science.

    You are a joke, a running joke, a one trick pony.
  3. Standard memberRJHinds
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    24 Nov '13 15:42
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    And of course we should believe your pronouncements because of your intense interest in science.

    You are a joke, a running joke, a one trick pony.
    Believe it because of real science. You believe what a few science philosophers might be speculating. Black holes are not proven science at this point.

    The Instructor
  4. Subscribersonhouse
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    25 Nov '13 01:493 edits
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Believe it because of real science. You believe what a few science philosophers might be speculating. Black holes are not proven science at this point.

    The Instructor
    So your science is better than those hundreds of Phd's who actually work in astronomy and physics? Explain to us then, just why black holes are theories and not proven. Here is one explanation why we are sure there are black holes:


    brianjames04 answered 5 years ago
    ''There are several stars that are orbiting unseen massive objects. Objects so massive that they are pulling away the stars outer layer and that material becomes so energized that it gives X-rays and gamma rays before it disappears.

    Using an estimate of the observable star's mass, the speed and orbit around it's unseen companion and the energy produced by hot gasses that are being siphoned off the the observable star -all add up to a Black Hole. Nothing else could explain what's being seen in the telescopes.

    No one has yet held a Black Hole in their hands and all the evidence for a Black Hole has been by indirect observations but most scientists see then as a fact. Also the theories behind a Black Hole are simple, elegant and very sound.

    You can't say that Black Holes are "proven" but there is far more evidence of Black Holes then there is of many other phenomena that no one else questions. The thing about Black Holes is how counter intuitive they are compared to things we see as normal".

    So RJ, you tell US what you think can make the entire outer envelope of a star get pulled directly off the surface and then start emitting huge amounts of X rays and Gamma rays and then just disappear, the X rays just stops. Why don't you give us the results of your incredible intellect and tell us what it really is.
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    25 Nov '13 12:00
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So your science is better than those hundreds of Phd's who actually work in astronomy and physics? Explain to us then, just why black holes are theories and not proven. Here is one explanation why we are sure there are black holes:


    brianjames04 answered 5 years ago
    ''There are several stars that are orbiting unseen massive objects. Objects so massive ...[text shortened]... s. Why don't you give us the results of your incredible intellect and tell us what it really is.
    He'll just say he doesn't know, and because he has no clue he will claim nobody else
    does either.

    His stupidity is eminently predictable.

    He just has no comprehension of basic scientific principles, doesn't understand and
    can't use logic or reason, and fundamentally doesn't understand what constitutes
    evidence.

    Until any of that changes trying to change his mind is pointless.
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