Originally posted by menace71
I'm a creationist but I also do not deny what is seen out in the universe and with the distances which puts me at odds at times with fundamentalists such as RJ but one can't deny what is seen and observed and the science behind it. I know some creationist have tried to come up with models that fit what we see and yet cram it into a literal 6K time frame pro ...[text shortened]... of known physics would have to be changed to accommodate some of these models ........
We have seen the small amount of changes in places like the Grand Canyon and we have about 150 years of watching, drawing, taking pictures and so forth. That represents 2 1/2 percent of the time going back to 4000 BC with very little change in that amount of time. If you project what we already know about those changes then YEC's have to come up with a way where all that happened in a few months or so without destroying the Earth in the process.
Or the spread of continents, the magnetic record is in the magma coming to the surface, measurable for hundreds of thousands of years into the past, YEC's have to figure how that could possibly jive with a literal 6000 year old Earth.
They also have to come up with a way to rationalize looking at ice core data that also now goes back over 100,000 years, with such rationalizations as, you don't know anything about the past, or, you can't count ice rings because more than one can happen in a year. (Even if it were TEN rings happening per year, it would still go back 10,000 years, WAY past the time the Earth was supposed to come into existence.
And tree ring data goes back over 10,000 years.
Not to mention dinosaur fossils, which YEC's say were around when men were around, based on the chance occurrence of human footprints inside dinosaur footprints, touted as proof humans and dino's lived side by side, ignoring any data showing the dino prints were literally millions of years old and the humans just walked on 100 million year old footprints when there was mud on the ground, all that doesn't matter a whit to YEC's, it is proof to them.
It just goes to show how supposedly intelligent people can be totally duped and too dam stubborn to admit it. EVER.