@metal-brain saidWait, why's it gene therapy?
If that was true you would know COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines Are “Gene Therapy" and Fulfill None of the Criteria for a Vaccine.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-vaccines-gene-therapy/5740003
@wildgrass saidRead the link.
Wait, why's it gene therapy?
If you are too lazy to read it just say so.
@metal-brain saidSo... it's not. The link said it was but, if you read it, it didn't provide evidence. All gene therapy involves DNA modifications, which vaccines cannot do.
Read the link.
If you are too lazy to read it just say so.
@wildgrass said"All gene therapy involves DNA modifications"
So... it's not. The link said it was but, if you read it, it didn't provide evidence. All gene therapy involves DNA modifications, which vaccines cannot do.
That is not true. Stop making up crap!
@Metal-Brain
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/will-mrna-vaccine-alter-my-dna
There is no alteration of genetic material, no DNA is altered. Messenger RNA ONLY makes proteins.
You really need to do genetics 101 at your local community college and THEN start arguing here.
@sonhouse saidI never claimed DNA was altered.
@Metal-Brain
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/will-mrna-vaccine-alter-my-dna
There is no alteration of genetic material, no DNA is altered. Messenger RNA ONLY makes proteins.
You really need to do genetics 101 at your local community college and THEN start arguing here.
You need to go back to grade school and learn how to read.
@metal-brain saidYou cliamed:
I never claimed DNA was altered.
You need to go back to grade school and learn how to read.
mRNA vaccines are gene therapy
gene therapy is defined by the FDA as:
Gene therapy is a technique that modifies a person’s genes to treat or cure disease. Gene therapies can work by several mechanisms:
Replacing a disease-causing gene with a healthy copy of the gene
Inactivating a disease-causing gene that is not functioning properly
Introducing a new or modified gene into the body to help treat a disease
So please elucidate in your own words what you actually mean.
"Read the link" doesn't count since you already showed that you did not understand what the link claims and what actual scientific research claims. SO if you want to be helped in understanding (as all scientist should), please let us understand how your mind works.
@ponderable saidHere is an excerpt from the link below:
You cliamed:
mRNA vaccines are gene therapy
gene therapy is defined by the FDA as:
Gene therapy is a technique that modifies a person’s genes to treat or cure disease. Gene therapies can work by several mechanisms:
Replacing a disease-causing gene with a healthy copy of the gene
Inactivating a disease-causing gene that is not functioning properly
I ...[text shortened]... be helped in understanding (as all scientist should), please let us understand how your mind works.
"In order to replicate, viruses introduce their genetic material into the host cell, tricking the host's cellular machinery into using it as blueprints for viral proteins. Retroviruses go a stage further by having their genetic material copied into the genome of the host cell. Scientists exploit this by substituting a virus's genetic material with therapeutic DNA. (The term 'DNA' may be an oversimplification, as some viruses contain RNA, and gene therapy could take this form as well.) A number of viruses have been used for human gene therapy, including retroviruses, adenoviruses, herpes simplex, vaccinia, and adeno-associated virus.[4] Like the genetic material (DNA or RNA) in viruses, therapeutic DNA can be designed to simply serve as a temporary blueprint that is degraded naturally or (at least theoretically) to enter the host's genome, becoming a permanent part of the host's DNA in infected cells."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_therapy
@ponderable saidNope. You overlooked this part:
@Metal-Brain
Yes. And now show that the mRNA works as retrovirus and you are right.
(The term 'DNA' may be an oversimplification, as some viruses contain RNA, and gene therapy could take this form as well.)
Now accept you piled onto a myth introduced by wildgrass because you didn't want to accept facts.
@metal-brain saidYou eat RNA in your diet every day. It would be bizarre to call that gene therapy.
"All gene therapy involves DNA modifications"
That is not true. Stop making up crap!
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@metal-brain saidYou've got this backwards. Viruses contain RNA. RNA is not a virus.
Nope. You overlooked this part:
(The term 'DNA' may be an oversimplification, as some viruses contain RNA, and gene therapy could take this form as well.)
Now accept you piled onto a myth introduced by wildgrass because you didn't want to accept facts.
@wildgrass saidLOL! Your ignorance is amusing!
You've got this backwards. Viruses contain RNA. RNA is not a virus.
Really? Then how does the mRNA become a virus?
A virus cannot reproduce on it's own.
How does a virus manipulate a cell into reproducing a virus?
A virus has to start from something. If it isn't mRNA what is it?
Does a cell reproduce a complete virus or not?
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@metal-brain said
LOL! Your ignorance is amusing!
Really? Then how does the mRNA become a virus?
A virus cannot reproduce on it's own.
How does a virus manipulate a cell into reproducing a virus?
A virus has to start from something. If it isn't mRNA what is it?
Does a cell reproduce a complete virus or not?
😆
Really? Then how does the mRNA become a virus?Yikes. I see we're veering into pointless semantics over substantial debate. You're missing the point. An mRNA "becoming" a virus does not mean an mRNA is a virus. Obviously. The vaccine cannot modify DNA and cannot function as a virus.
If you want to show mRNA vaccines are gene therapy, it should be simple. Just show where it makes DNA modifications.