22 Mar 09
It has been in agreement for years that all humans need someone/thing to interact with..... or else we would all be sitting in corners searching for our long lost marbles. My question though is it possible to actually deny this fact of life.... what im saying is is it possible for us as humans to live our lives without any relations with people of things? just ponder it........ can we be alone and sane/content? I personolly think its possible.
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by lilly may martinI think there are ppl who live totaly isolated, without any relations with other ppl and are content with that.
It has been in agreement for years that all humans need someone/thing to interact with..... or else we would all be sitting in corners searching for our long lost marbles. My question though is it possible to actually deny this fact of life.... what im saying is is it possible for us as humans to live our lives without any relations with people of things? just ponder it........ can we be alone and sane/content? I personolly think its possible.
But the human is an intelligent animal, i think a person will always be thinking of stuff to do.
So if you dont have any contact with other ppl i think that you will have good contact with a dog, or other animal, or you like to collect mushrooms or whatever.
You will not sit still.
"is it possible for us as humans to live our lives without any relations with people of things?"
you will always have relations with things, when i use my fork to eat, i have a relation with it (i only use my fork to eat, not that kind of 'relation' pervert 😠).
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by lilly may martinIt's for sure possible for one generation....
It has been in agreement for years that all humans need someone/thing to interact with..... or else we would all be sitting in corners searching for our long lost marbles. My question though is it possible to actually deny this fact of life.... what im saying is is it possible for us as humans to live our lives without any relations with people of things? just ponder it........ can we be alone and sane/content? I personolly think its possible.
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by zozozozothats not what i meant... i mean can we live our lives without fellow human interaction and still be sane. I dont mean between humans and anything else..... let me state it better if the world were completley empty and humans didnt need food, water, or ANYTHING to survive could we do it without going crazy?
I think there are ppl who live totaly isolated, without any relations with other ppl and are content with that.
But the human is an intelligent animal, i think a person will always be thinking of stuff to do.
So if you dont have any contact with other ppl i think that you will have good contact with a dog, or other animal, or you like to collect mushrooms ...[text shortened]... ave a relation with it (i only use my fork to eat, not that kind of 'relation' pervert 😠).
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by lilly may martinYes.
if the world were completley empty and humans didnt need food, water, or ANYTHING to survive could we do it without going crazy?
I dont see why a brain would need another brain to communicate with to be able to function.
It would be usefull, to share ideas and whatsoever, but not needed.
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by zozozozoWhat about the part where you want for the human race to continue as a species. If I am not wrong, which I may be, I had always thought it took two people to reproduce, and thus screwing up the theory of not interacting with humanity. That's what I meant when I said it could work for one generation.
Yes.
I dont see why a brain would need another brain to communicate with to be able to function.
It would be usefull, to share ideas and whatsoever, but not needed.
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by sonhouseOk, i agree with you.
What about the part where you want for the human race to continue as a species. If I am not wrong, which I may be, I had always thought it took two people to reproduce, and thus screwing up the theory of not interacting with humanity. That's what I meant when I said it could work for one generation.
But he was asking if we'd go crazy of it, not extinct😉
23 Mar 09
Originally posted by zozozozook well i understand the population lets just say that everyone is a sexual for the purpose of this discusion.... what im trying to say is do you think that people need to see/ be with other people or do you think that if given the choice we could survive (mentally) in total isolation?
Ok, i agree with you.
But he was asking if we'd go crazy of it, not extinct😉
23 Mar 09
Originally posted by lilly may martinWell think about the isolation experiments where they float people in water that is totally body temp, no light no heat no cold, no sound. Then in about 20 minutes or so the mind creates it's own space, inventing hallucinations, audio, video, etc., so it would seem from that experiment that the mind needs companionship and if deprived of same, will invent it's own, which to me would suggest a limited lifetime, because the person (former person) would not know the dif between reality and its own inventions. So what would it do if it didn't know it had to eat for instance, being in total isolation, it may not recognize hunger signals for instance. I think ultimately people would go feral without companionship. And by feral I mean loss of its own humanity, putting it on the level mentally as any other animal and though it may exist in that state, how would you call such an individual human anymore?
ok well i understand the population lets just say that everyone is a sexual for the purpose of this discusion.... what im trying to say is do you think that people need to see/ be with other people or do you think that if given the choice we could survive (mentally) in total isolation?
23 Mar 09
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Originally posted by sonhousecool^^ can u link such experiments?
Well think about the isolation experiments where they float people in water that is totally body temp, no light no heat no cold, no sound. Then in about 20 minutes or so the mind creates it's own space, inventing hallucinations, audio, video, etc., so it would seem from that experiment that the mind needs companionship and if deprived of same, will invent i l and though it may exist in that state, how would you call such an individual human anymore?
"which to me would suggest a limited lifetime, because the person (former person) would not know the dif between reality and its own inventions."
So? there are ALOT of ppl that can communicate with other ppl and that being the Cause of them not knowing whats reality and whats not.
I could give you ALL religious ppl for example, but im only giving you suicide terrorist bombers. In my opinion they totaly lost the feeling of whats reality and whats not, the cause of this is 'brainwashing' by other humans.
"being in total isolation, it may not recognize hunger signals for instance."
why not? your body signals you you are hungry or not, this has nothing to do with contact to other ppl.
"I think ultimately people would go feral without companionship. And by feral I mean loss of its own humanity, putting it on the level mentally as any other animal and though it may exist in that state, how would you call such an individual human anymore?"
I would still call it human because i study biology; humans are also animals.
In isolation i think a human would be very much like a regular animal, but very smart.
"loss of its own humanity"...hmm, what is humanity? did the suicide terrorist lose its humanity? or is bombing ppl a part of humanity?