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Originally posted by sharpnovaWhat is GR?
Mathematically it's finite.
Physical sciences-wise, not really. Though zero is certainly more finite than the singular extremums of GR.
Originally posted by sharpnovahuh?
Mathematically it's finite.
Physical sciences-wise, not really. Though zero is certainly more finite than the singular extremums of GR.
Originally posted by flexmoreHowever - Year Zero didn't exist. By definition.
However:
If 0 is defined as the number of years since (a devout christian believes) JC died, then 0 was a year which happened.
Originally posted by kaminskyNumbers are ordered on a number line, where there is a location for "0" which is just another number.
is -0.999999999999' 0 / are numbers an abstract reality / are numbers just places on a number line
Originally posted by kaminskyIn your example the difference is 0.00001
sry pissed and playing poker, this should read -0.99999' + 1 =0.the points are questions really, not unqualified certainty. my main point is , is there a difference between a whole number and one where an infinitely small addidtion or subtraction is applied, can it be defined.
Originally posted by kaminskyMight be barking up he wrong tree tree here but 0.99999... (where the dots imply infinitely recurring) is precisely equal to 1.
sry pissed and playing poker, this should read -0.99999' + 1 =0.the points are questions really, not unqualified certainty. my main point is , is there a difference between a whole number and one where an infinitely small addidtion or subtraction is applied, can it be defined.
Originally posted by FabianFnasLOL 0 hadn't been invented yet
However - Year Zero didn't exist. By definition.
Next day of was 31st of December the year 1 B.C. was 1st of January the year 1 A.D.
Further: The year zero was not (ever) defined of years after Jesus death. Some people say years after Jesus was born, but not even that is true.
Originally posted by kaminskyIn the normal, everyday number line, no. In surreal numbers, yes. But nobody except maths freaks use surreal numbers, and they use them mostly to toy around with, or to do games theory (and if one wants to be snide, one could say that that's the same thing - but it isn't, entirely). Hell, nobody except people who paid attention in maths class in sec.ed. ever uses the real number line, either - most people stick to the whole numbers with an occasional rational and, very rarely, an algebraic non-rational thrown in. So yes, for the vast majority of people, and for everybody in the majority of contexts, one minus infinitesimal equals one, exactly.
sry pissed and playing poker, this should read -0.99999' + 1 =0.the points are questions really, not unqualified certainty. my main point is , is there a difference between a whole number and one where an infinitely small addidtion or subtraction is applied, can it be defined.
Originally posted by Shallow BlueWhoa! The whole numbers are boring! I mean, they're tiny, and they have a boring structure as a group compared to, say, the rationals. You can't do analysis on the whole numbers either, not really...
In the normal, everyday number line, no. In surreal numbers, yes. But nobody except maths freaks use surreal numbers, and they use them mostly to toy around with, or to do games theory (and if one wants to be snide, one could say that that's the same thing - but it isn't, entirely). Hell, nobody except people who paid attention in maths class in sec.ed. ...[text shortened]... everybody in the majority of contexts, one minus infinitesimal equals one, exactly.
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Originally posted by kaminskyThere are two ways to write the value of 1.
sry pissed and playing poker, this should read -0.99999' + 1 =0.the points are questions really, not unqualified certainty. my main point is , is there a difference between a whole number and one where an infinitely small addidtion or subtraction is applied, can it be defined.