Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Tim Noakes: heart disease theory 'has failed'
http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/heart-disease-theory-an-error-noakes-1.1384290
Tim Noakes called a 'cholesterol denialist'
http://www.health24.com/medical/Condition_centres/777-792-812-1741,76665.asp
I agree with Tim Noakes assertion that the heart disease theory is an error and I agree with most of what he says but, if he
did actually say ( and I am aware of the common corruption of putting words into peoples mouths ) we
should switch to a high fat high protein diet then I would be forced to agree with those doctors who say he has gone too far. This is because the standard cholesterol theory being wrong does not necessarily imply ( and certainly does not equate with ) that a diet higher in fat and protein would be better for us! To jump to the assumption that a high fat high protein diet is better for us would be just as unscientific and irrational as jumping to the assumptions that lead to the standard cholesterol theory!
Rather revealing in http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/heart-disease-theory-an-error-noakes-1.1384290 is the case against statins with evidence that clearly contradicts the cholesterol theory:
“...
Prof Patrick Commerford et al’s letter (“Noakes goes too far”, September 14) states that “Noakes’s questioning of the value of cholesterol-lowering agents, or statins, was at best unwise and could be harmful to patients”. Here is an alternative position:
As doctors in the 1990s we learned that atherosclerosis was caused by high cholesterol and that statin tablets reduced cholesterol and so protected us from heart attacks. It was easy – “you are what you eat”.
The first shock to this theory came in a meta-analysis in 2000 when Mike Pignone et al showed that although statin tablets reduced heart attacks they did not cut overall mortality. So you might not die of a heart attack, but you wouldn’t live any longer.
The second shock was when Jeppeson et al showed in 2001 that half |of all heart attacks happen to people with normal cholesterol.
This meant something else was |going on besides high cholesterol to cause heart attacks.
The answer came initially from a study by Paul Ridker in 1998 showing that men with inflammation in their arteries were at much higher risk of heart attacks than other men.
This meant that inflammation was more important than raised cholesterol in developing a heart attack.
But if inflammation was causing heart attacks, why were statin tablets that lowered cholesterol so useful?
The JUPITER study gave us the answer by showing that a statin tablet would both reduce inflammation and cholesterol. This means that if the arterial wall is not inflamed then cholesterol will tend not to stick to it.
So if it is inflammation and not absolute cholesterol levels that we are fighting, then wouldn’t it be more prudent to use an anti-inflammatory to prevent heart attacks?
In 2006, Pignone got back into the ring to show that for the average person who was at moderate-to-low risk for a heart attack, Aspirin was more effective and more cost-effective than statin tablets at reducing heart attacks. ...”
I was rather annoyed by the remark said against Tim Noakes beliefs ( actually, not quite 'beliefs' but 'disbeliefs' ) in
http://www.health24.com/medical/Condition_centres/777-792-812-1741,76665.asp which was:
"Having survived 'Aids Denialism' we do not need to be exposed to 'Cholesterol Denialism',"
We have EVIDENCE of Aids! We do not have evidence for the standard cholesterol theory! So you cannot compare 'Aids Denialism' with 'Cholesterol Denialism' -somebody should tell those doctors that.