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http://phys.org/news/2013-07-natural-affinitiesunrecognized-nowmay-stage-life.html
Getting closer to creationists Zero, evolution and life from scratch 1.
Getting closer to creationists Zero, evolution and life from scratch 1.
Originally posted by sonhouseIt's always good to find the obvious being proved. You could almost use the anthropic principle. If generating RNA from scratch is hard then, since we are here to discuss it, there must have been an intermediate stage to make it likely. Happily for those of us stuck in this perpetual battle with creationists, the stage exists and we can all (apart from the creationisits) be happy with a minor victory.
http://phys.org/news/2013-07-natural-affinitiesunrecognized-nowmay-stage-life.html
Getting closer to creationists Zero, evolution and life from scratch 1.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtEnough of those minor victories and we will be making new life from dead dirt. That might throw the creationist rabble for a tizzie but I doubt it. They will just move the goalpost, again.
It's always good to find the obvious being proved. You could almost use the anthropic principle. If generating RNA from scratch is hard then, since we are here to discuss it, there must have been an intermediate stage to make it likely. Happily for those of us stuck in this perpetual battle with creationists, the stage exists and we can all (apart from the creationisits) be happy with a minor victory.
Originally posted by sonhouseSeems to me that you have an ax to bury in someone's back. You must really hate Christians. It is really rather sad.
Enough of those minor victories and we will be making new life from dead dirt. That might throw the creationist rabble for a tizzie but I doubt it. They will just move the goalpost, again.
Originally posted by EladarI am not a single religion hater, I dislike ALL of them, ESPECIALLY Islam and Christianity. They have been at loggerheads for a thousand years and no end in sight.
Seems to me that you have an ax to bury in someone's back. You must really hate Christians. It is really rather sad.
Originally posted by sonhouseWars are fought by haters, religion is simply the excuse. Now you've created another one, science.
I am not a single religion hater, I dislike ALL of them, ESPECIALLY Islam and Christianity. They have been at loggerheads for a thousand years and no end in sight.
Both religions are based on Judaism (Abrahamic religions) and are based on plain lies and stories.
All the religious wars in the last 1000 years are totally unnecessary, millions of peopl ...[text shortened]... d. Our world is not the same place anymore.
All brought to you by your local religion.
Originally posted by EladarThat is the standard excuse. Wars come in all varieties but religious wars cannot be thwarted by negotiation when one or both parties THINK they have some god or other on their side. When thugs fight wars, it is just the biggest and baddest who wins, but when religions conflict the little people are the inevitable victims because the leaders, every one, wants ultimately world domination.
Wars are fought by haters, religion is simply the excuse. Now you've created another one, science.
Haters of the world are the problem.
Originally posted by Eladar
Wars are fought by haters, religion is simply the excuse. Now you've created another one, science.
Haters of the world are the problem.
Now you've created another one, science.
Haters of the world are the problem.
Originally posted by sonhouseScientists have long thought that life started when the right combination of bases and sugars produced self-replicating ribonucleic acid, or RNA, inside a rudimentary "cell" composed of fatty acids.
http://phys.org/news/2013-07-natural-affinitiesunrecognized-nowmay-stage-life.html
Getting closer to creationists Zero, evolution and life from scratch 1.
Originally posted by RJHinds
Scientists have long thought that life started when the right combination of bases and sugars produced self-replicating ribonucleic acid, or RNA, inside a rudimentary "cell" composed of fatty acids.
However, there is no way to account for how all the precise information is encoded other than by an intelligent designer.
The Instructor
there is no way to account for how all the precise information is encoded other than by an intelligent designer.
Originally posted by RJHinds
Scientists have long thought that life started when the right combination of bases and sugars produced self-replicating ribonucleic acid, or RNA, inside a rudimentary "cell" composed of fatty acids.
However, there is no way to account for how all the precise information is encoded other than by an intelligent designer.
The Instructor
or RNA,
Originally posted by humyHow can science be used as an excuse for war? Easy, you make assumptions that can't be proven, then claim that science backs you up. It is the exact same way that some people use religion.Now you've created another one, science.
How is science used as an excuse for war? That doesn't make sense.
Wars have never been fort in the name of scientific method nor in the name of scientific knowledge but some have been fort, at least in part, in the name of a god or gods and over who's religion is the right one. Saying that religi ...[text shortened]... coincidence! It stands to reason -can you figure it out? Tell us, why do you think that is?
Originally posted by EladarInteresting. How many wars can you name where a reasoning based on (pseudo-)science was the primary motivation?
How can science be used as an excuse for war? Easy, you make assumptions that can't be proven, then claim that science backs you up. It is the exact same way that some people use religion.
But since such people are 'true believers' they can't see what they are doing, so are immune to any sort of debate on the matter.
Originally posted by Eladar
How can science be used as an excuse for war? Easy, you make assumptions that can't be proven, then claim that science backs you up. It is the exact same way that some people use religion.
But since such people are 'true believers' they can't see what they are doing, so are immune to any sort of debate on the matter.
you make assumptions that can't be proven, then claim that science backs you up.
Originally posted by sonhouse"Stupid Muslims can't even keep their fight to christians and Hindi's. They fight each other, Sunni V Shia and other sects. Bombing each other's mosques and such, car bombs at funerals."
I am not a single religion hater, I dislike ALL of them, ESPECIALLY Islam and Christianity. They have been at loggerheads for a thousand years and no end in sight.
Both religions are based on Judaism (Abrahamic religions) and are based on plain lies and stories.
All the religious wars in the last 1000 years are totally unnecessary, millions of peopl ...[text shortened]... d. Our world is not the same place anymore.
All brought to you by your local religion.