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Originally posted by RJHinds
Those records were probably destroyed or buried deep in the ocean during the worldwide flood. Next.

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Let me get this straight, indeed, with a straight face...

The moon had massive meter/asteroid strikes, obvious from looking at it with telescopes. All those strikes happened over a short period of time, say less than 1000 years at which point the moon was pretty much a molten mess down to some kilometers of depth.

So somehow the solar system filled with water and enough, ah, frozen water, hit the moon to have cooled it off in say less than a few hundred years and was seen by many people but those records were destroyed by the flood even though we have equally old records from dozens of dynasties of ancient Egypt, Minoans, and so forth.

Is that about the correct story?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Let me get this straight, indeed, with a straight face...

The moon had massive meter/asteroid strikes, obvious from looking at it with telescopes. All those strikes happened over a short period of time, say less than 1000 years at which point the moon was pretty much a molten mess down to some kilometers of depth.

So somehow the solar system filled w ...[text shortened]... dozens of dynasties of ancient Egypt, Minoans, and so forth.

Is that about the correct story?
You don't get it.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You don't get it.

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Well then O maven of ancient history, tell it to me straight. For instance, did the moon get hit with meteor/asteroid strikes?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Well then O maven of ancient history, tell it to me straight. For instance, did the moon get hit with meteor/asteroid strikes?
Maybe. I wasn't there.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Maybe. I wasn't there.

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Just what exactly do you think caused all those big ass holes on the moon if it were not meteors or asteroids or comets?


Originally posted by sonhouse
Just what exactly do you think caused all those big ass holes on the moon if it were not meteors or asteroids or comets?
I did not say some of the holes could not have been caused by meteors, asteroids, or comets. Maybe some were dried up ponds or lakes. Maybe some are sink holes. Maybe some were caused by moonquakes. I can only speculate, since I have never been on the moon and I was not there when they happened.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I did not say some of the holes could not have been caused by meteors, asteroids, or comets. Maybe some were dried up ponds or lakes. Maybe some are sink holes. Maybe some were caused by moonquakes. I can only speculate, since I have never been on the moon and I was not there when they happened.

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Like I said, you should be on comedy central. Dried up lakes. OMG. Er, how do you explain the fact that there are ridges around those 'holes' that extend some places more than a mile high? Don't think a dried up pond would do that.


Originally posted by sonhouse
Like I said, you should be on comedy central. Dried up lakes. OMG. Er, how do you explain the fact that there are ridges around those 'holes' that extend some places more than a mile high? Don't think a dried up pond would do that.
I understand that there are volcanoes on the moon too. So perhaps that explains it.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I understand that there are volcanoes on the moon too. So perhaps that explains it.

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You really are dead set against the idea there were massive meteor/asteroid/comet strikes on the moon or elsewhere.

Tell me, what caused the Barringer crater?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
You really are dead set against the idea there were massive meteor/asteroid/comet strikes on the moon or elsewhere.

Tell me, what caused the Barringer crater?
It is believed to be caused by a meteor, but nobody was there to observe it. So we don't really know. I ask where is the meteor? Did it just bounce off back into space?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
It is believed to be caused by a meteor, but nobody was there to observe it. So we don't really know. I ask where is the meteor? Did it just bounce off back into space?

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You are so naive as to believe a meteor can strike the earth and BOUNCE back? The object that created the Barringer crater was the size of a car or maybe a bit larger. You took physics so you say, calculate the kinetic energy of a meteor massing 100 tons coming in at 50,000 miles per hour and see if there would be anything left to bounce. Even the Hiroshima bomb did not make a crater like that.

The Barringer crater is just a small example of the exact same physical shape in other places on Earth but erosion has covered up most of the rest here. On the moon there is no erosion so all the hits are recorded like a tape recorder, every hit is still there unless covered up by volcano activity which btw leaves horizontal fill looking like an ocean not a crater. Olympus Mons on Mars is a mountain not a crater. All the rims you see on the moon were made by objects flying in at 40 to 50 thousand miles an hour and it literally melted the surface of the moon because of the violence of it all.


Originally posted by sonhouse
You are so naive as to believe a meteor can strike the earth and BOUNCE back? The object that created the Barringer crater was the size of a car or maybe a bit larger. You took physics so you say, calculate the kinetic energy of a meteor massing 100 tons coming in at 50,000 miles per hour and see if there would be anything left to bounce. Even the Hiroshima ...[text shortened]... miles an hour and it literally melted the surface of the moon because of the violence of it all.
Most of what you say is unproven assumptions.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Most of what you say is unproven assumptions.

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So you can't do the kinetic energy equation, why didn't you just say that.


Originally posted by sonhouse
So you can't do the kinetic energy equation, why didn't you just say that.
I did not try, because it was a waste of my time.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I did not try, because it was a waste of my time.

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In other words, you can't. So much for your interest in actual science.