17 Jan 10
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungA cell is not a pig, not even a stem cell. Pork meat from a stem cell cannot be unclean. Only pigs are, they say.
PIG stem cells.
But do I think they will agree? No. They will never enjoy a good Pata Negra. Even a synthetic one. Of religious reasons.
17 Jan 10
Originally posted by FabianFnasPig stem cells means pig biology, which means the meat is more similar to human meat than most, and conducts disease better.
A cell is not a pig, not even a stem cell. Pork meat from a stem cell cannot be unclean. Only pigs are, they say.
But do I think they will agree? No. They will never enjoy a good Pata Negra. Even a synthetic one. Of religious reasons.
Of course the disease would have little chance to get in there...
17 Jan 10
Originally posted by FabianFnasI talked to a friend in New Zealand today and mentioned this, she is Jewish, she said Jews couldn't eat it because it was pig DNA. I think that was just a gut reaction but I wonder what the wider Jewish world would think.
A cell is not a pig, not even a stem cell. Pork meat from a stem cell cannot be unclean. Only pigs are, they say.
But do I think they will agree? No. They will never enjoy a good Pata Negra. Even a synthetic one. Of religious reasons.
18 Jan 10
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Originally posted by sonhouseI'm sure they'd agree, unless they eat pork already like most of the (non-practicing, obviously) Jews I've known did.
I talked to a friend in New Zealand today and mentioned this, she is Jewish, she said Jews couldn't eat it because it was pig DNA. I think that was just a gut reaction but I wonder what the wider Jewish world would think.
18 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYou mean that some don't eat pork because it's close to cannibalism?
Pig stem cells means pig biology, which means the meat is more similar to human meat than most, and conducts disease better.
Of course the disease would have little chance to get in there...
Never thought of it that way...
18 Jan 10
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Originally posted by sonhousePiggish DNA doesn't differ much from any other DNA. Made of sugar molecules and amino acids and such. It's its order that defines that a certain DNA comes from pig, nothing else.
I talked to a friend in New Zealand today and mentioned this, she is Jewish, she said Jews couldn't eat it because it was pig DNA. I think that was just a gut reaction but I wonder what the wider Jewish world would think.
But I don't think we eat meat only because it's contents of DNA.
18 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThe pig genome, like the human genome, is already riddled with various viral elements like retrotransposons and it is unclear if they might mobilise in a human host or worse again transmit to the germ line. This has lead to a great deal of caution about xenotransplantation where pig organs with humanised antigens might help solve the shortage of human organs for transplant operations.
Pig stem cells means pig biology, which means the meat is more similar to human meat than most, and conducts disease better.
Of course the disease would have little chance to get in there...
18 Jan 10
Originally posted by sonhouseIt definitely could be something like the gadgets some Jewish people use to get around the Sabbath restrictions.
I talked to a friend in New Zealand today and mentioned this, she is Jewish, she said Jews couldn't eat it because it was pig DNA. I think that was just a gut reaction but I wonder what the wider Jewish world would think.
18 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungDoes this mean that jews in the 1st world can eat as much pork as they want?
Because pork in first world countries is carefully kept free of disease.
And the rules of the old testament is not relevant today, because they have problem eating pork, and we don't?
Back to topic...
I don't think artificially grown pork will be specifically tasty. The constistence like fungus, and the taste like plastic? And for now it is *very* expensive.
18 Jan 10
Originally posted by FabianFnasI actually brought up that same point. I think it goes beyond scientific arguments after that. There was an interesting unreasoning objection based purely on religious law.
Piggish DNA doesn't differ much from any other DNA. Made of sugar molecules and amino acids and such. It's its order that defines that a certain DNA comes from pig, nothing else.
But I don't think we eat meat only because it's contents of DNA.