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@soothfast saidI think everyone should try it at least once. At least for me, to remind oneself that control is an illusion.
Psychedelics do indeed show great promise. Having experimented quite a bit with psilocybin mushrooms in the past, I can say that it opens ones eyes to new possibilities.
@sonhouse saidThere's also psychedelic cacti, of course, which have mescaline. While it's illegal to possess peyote cactus, the San Pedro cactus is perfectly legal. Very time intensive to prepare (six hours at least), and the resultant green, slimy beverage is very bitter. This method was pretty easy though, as you don't even have to remove the spines:
@wildgrass
Hi, thanks! But shrooms and such have been used for MILLENIA.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/12/health/cannabis-anicent-dead-marijuana.html
Since boo has been around for millions of years, it is not a big stretch to think humans were using it a hundred thousand years ago also. All you have to do is be a vegetarian kind of human and eat a wild pot plant a ...[text shortened]... hose plants and fungi would be lost and found again a thousand times in the last million years also.
@caissad4 saidI think I read about woodrose seeds sometime last year. People chow them down to get something comparable to an LSD-like experience, but it's generally understood that nausea and vomiting about an hour or so in is part of the ritual. This may be why the DEA hasn't bothered to ban the seeds.
For a mild experience you can try Baby Hawaiian Woodrose seeds . You can buy them on Ebay . Crush them (8 or 9 seeds) and place in a poultice , place poultice between cheek and gum and a mild high will follow .
@wildgrass saidI think so too.
I think everyone should try it at least once. At least for me, to remind oneself that control is an illusion.
@sonhouse saidYep, I did a foot-long section. It gave me a mild trip. Judging from my experiences with shrooms, I think I tend to need roughly 30% bigger doses to get the same experience as the average person. Maybe because I'm older, maybe because of the way my brain is wired. Don't know. Next time I would try 16 inches and boil it longer.
@Soothfast
Did you duplicate the recipe as given in the link? One FOOT long section for one dose?
@deepthought saidThat's right! It comes back to me now. I had researched a lot of this stuff obsessively back when I was working up the courage to try psilocybin mushrooms.
According to the Wikipedia page it's metabolized into psilocin which is a partial agonist of HT-5 receptors which are normally activated by serotonin. There's some evidence that dopamine is also released by both LSD and psilocybin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin#Pharmacology
@soothfast saidSlight nausea is side effect. I never vomited though . It is more of a psilocybin high .
I think I read about woodrose seeds sometime last year. People chow them down to get something comparable to an LSD-like experience, but it's generally understood that nausea and vomiting about an hour or so in is part of the ritual. This may be why the DEA hasn't bothered to ban the seeds.
Then again, many have trouble keeping their cookies down on San Pedro cactus ...[text shortened]... me, or even shrooms, but I've never had problems with either.
Yet I cannot handle mayonnaise...
@soothfast saidWrite that down next time!
I think so too.
There was one 7-dry-gram shroom trip I had where, for a short while, I saw (or at least felt I saw)...well...everything. Like a complete Zen Awakening. Aztec-like glyphs were crawling across the walls, and suddenly I was singing in some strange language like an ancient shaman. Where did that come from? But it was utter bliss. Everything was c ...[text shortened]... t be described in words, and I've long since lost the meaning of it, but the memory remains. Crazy.
@sonhouse saidThey'll often test ones understanding of reality. And time.
@wildgrass
Do you think hallucinations like that could have produced real glyphs of some other place and time, another planet maybe, real connections? Or could it just be the work of a creative mind?
@sonhouse saidMany people have reported seeing what look like Aztec glyphs while tripping on shrooms. The Aztecs tripped on shrooms as part of certain ceremonial rites. I suspect, therefore, that Aztec glyphs were at least partially modeled on what Aztecs saw while tripping.
@wildgrass
If there was some kind of freaky multidimesional connection to some other place and/or time it would be hard if not impossible to be able to prove.
I don't think there is such a thing but if there were.........