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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120718.html
A cavern below a crater on Mars!
A cavern below a crater on Mars!
Originally posted by Thequ1cktell me what do you think a "heat capacitor" is or an "ideal heat capacitor" is?
Interesting. Makes one wonder how the mantle of Mars might behave as an ideal heat capacitor for stabilizing temperature ranges to enable subterranean 'life'.
Originally posted by humyOK. I should have said. 'Does the heat capacity of Mar's mantle enable diffusion of heat in such a way as to remain within the tangible limits for which are know to support 'light-less' organic life?'.
tell me what do you think a "heat capacitor" is or an "ideal heat capacitor" is?
try and find a link that defines these terms.
look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor
how does this relate to heat?
( I may regret posting this. We may get a all too familiar response with the word “represent” in it )
Originally posted by Thequ1ckHeat and capacitor don't go together is what hu was getting at. Capacitance is the potential storage of electrical energy depending on the potential difference between the electrodes, the voltage difference between the plates and the dialectric constant between the electrodes. Here is a chart speaking to dialectric constants:
OK. I should have said. 'Does the heat capacity of Mar's mantle enable diffusion of heat in such a way as to remain within the tangible limits for which are know to support 'light-less' organic life?'.
But I was thinking. 'What are the known electrolytic conditions upon which life 'could' not rely upon Photosynthesis?. Could these conditions not be said t. Sorry for the number of edits. Not OCD, just too dumb to use a Word Processor first.
Originally posted by sonhouseIt is interesting that 'Heat capacity' and 'thermal capacity' are perfectly valid terms:
Heat and capacitor don't go together is what hu was getting at.......
You seem to be talking about thermal energy storage, like when you have a couple hundred gallons of water in columns inside a house and it is heated by the sun but when the sun goes down, it starts releasing its stored heat energy, like a thermal battery, thus helping to maintain a constant temperature in the room or house.
Originally posted by sonhouseThnx for the research, I will attempt to understand it as Electronics is a particular weakness of mine.
Heat and capacitor don't go together is what hu was getting at. Capacitance is the potential storage of electrical energy depending on the potential difference between the electrodes, the voltage difference between the plates and the dialectric constant between the electrodes. Here is a chart speaking to dialectric constants:
http://hyperphysics.phy-ast ...[text shortened]... , like a thermal battery, thus helping to maintain a constant temperature in the room or house.
Originally posted by Thequ1ck
Thnx for the research, I will attempt to understand it as Electronics is a particular weakness of mine.
I was actually thinking in another direction though.
Suppose you have a sealed box with two compounds which react within
a certain temperature range and return to their constituants below this
temperature level.
The group compound has either ...[text shortened]... iety of different heat potentials. Thus creating a greater range for these reactions to occur.
The group compound has either a greater or lesser charge
than the sum of it's constituant compounds.
Originally posted by humyA Chemical reaction by default encompasses the charges of it's constituent compounds or elements.The group compound has either a greater or lesser charge
than the sum of it's constituant compounds.
what does that mean?
( note that I have done university chemistry and physics courses )
Originally posted by Thequ1ckInitially I thought that you were simply saying that underground temperatures would be more stable that surface temperatures and that they might be within the range required by life. Now however I am just confused about what you are trying to say.
I was actually thinking in another direction though.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI would imagine at some depth if there was ice there would be liquid water also, maybe even underground rivers.
Initially I thought that you were simply saying that underground temperatures would be more stable that surface temperatures and that they might be within the range required by life. Now however I am just confused about what you are trying to say.
In general however, subsurface temperatures are fairly stable and below a few meters would be more seasonal than daily.
Originally posted by twhiteheadInitially it was what I was saying but it occurred to me how it would take more than a stable heat range to sustain life. It would require an alternative to photosynthesis. An electric current might just do it.
Initially I thought that you were simply saying that underground temperatures would be more stable that surface temperatures and that they might be within the range required by life. Now however I am just confused about what you are trying to say.
In general however, subsurface temperatures are fairly stable and below a few meters would be more seasonal than daily.
Originally posted by Thequ1ck
Initially it was what I was saying but it occurred to me how it would take more than a stable heat range to sustain life. It would require an alternative to photosynthesis. An electric current might just do it.
An electric current might just do it.
Originally posted by Thequ1ckThere are many life forms on earth that survive without photosynthesis (most notably on mid ocean ridges) and in fact it is believed that the earliest life forms did not have photosynthesis.
Initially it was what I was saying but it occurred to me how it would take more than a stable heat range to sustain life. It would require an alternative to photosynthesis. An electric current might just do it.
Originally posted by Thequ1ckYou have an imagination for sure. It seems to me however you need to go to school and complete your education in science so you don't keep going off the deep end.
Initially it was what I was saying but it occurred to me how it would take more than a stable heat range to sustain life. It would require an alternative to photosynthesis. An electric current might just do it.