Originally posted by joe beyser
Does everyone have to agree on everything to be part of the group? Keep in mind there are a lot of other RHP folks that may want to participate on here that do not agree with you on everything. I for one think that any discussion for or against a subject like evolution can be discussed here or on the spirituality forum. The only proof one way or another w ...[text shortened]... hat leave out other members then why not have a private forum or PM or something of that nature?
Does everyone have to agree on everything to be part of the group?
No, and obviously I clearly didn’t say/imply anything of the sort. But they DO need to accept the basic principles of science before they can be part of our group for making rational debates about scientific matters. The moron doesn't have any scientific credentials nor interest in science but, much more to the point, doesn't even accept the basic principles of science (like, for example, you should base all conclusions on the evidence and logic alone and never faith nor what you would want to be true ) .
Keep in mind there are a lot of other RHP folks that may want to participate on here that do not agree with you on everything.
Right, and most of them have an opinion NOT based on the rejection of science or the known scientific facts for religious reasons! I have no problem with debating with someone that merely disagrees with me -just keep God or the gods out of the debate here because religion and God and gods is not part of any real science! If it is religion, it isn't science.
I for one think that any discussion for or against a subject like evolution can be discussed here or on the spirituality forum.
Not rationally. Evolution is a proven scientific fact and the denial of this fact is usually done purely for religious reasons thus that denial is not part of science and never belongs in the Science forum because any religious talk against evolution is not a scientific
The only proof one way or another will come from science.
No, not “come” because the proof is already here. Evolution is already proven by science -live with it!
If you wish to have discussions that leave out other members then ...
The moron is not a member of the scientific community nor even someone that has an interest in science thus doesn't belong here in the Science forum. OBVIOUSLT, I CLEARLY didn't imply anyone that wants to to have a genuine discussion about SCIENCE, NOT RELIGION in the SCIENCE forum, should not be here. Actually, the problem with the moron is not so much he wants to discuss religion in the science forum but that he just trolls here with extremely stupid unintelligent comments like “EVIL-ution is EVIL” rather than have any sort of meaningful debate or real argument -unless you think “EVIL-ution is EVIL” is an 'argument'? Do you? Is THAT one of the perfectly valid 'scientific opinions' that you would say I don't want to have in the science forum just because I 'disagree' with it?
The moron has NEVER presented a genuine scientific hypothesis in this forum -just unintelligent trolling (unless you think “EVIL-ution is EVIL” is intelligent!? )
If it wasn't for the fact that he never debates but just trolls, if or when I find out just for once he presents a genuine scientific hypothesis, even one I completely disagree with, I would be willing to debate with him.