@KellyJay saidOOL is an ongoing 200 year scientific project and all you can do is do your arrogant GODDIDIT, and FK all you IDIOTIC scientists who can't see the light.
Staying on topic about life’s beginning:
There are no givens here. If any required piece of the puzzle is missing, the process breaks down and fails. These requirements do not work in isolation; they must converge. If even one is missing or corrupted, the system fails.
Timing is everything; the length of time will not help if everything that must be true at the same ...[text shortened]... he information conveyed by that arrangement rises far above the mere makeup of the rocks themselves.
Even though there are some 5000 OOL myths including Christianity which stole the idea of a 7 day building the universe and rest on day 7, anthropomorphizing a GOD? Like a GOD who invents an entire universe would even have the time frame of humans. And OF COURSE there are the THOUSANDS of biblical interpreters who all give their take on biblical tales so the volume of data grows to the point where the folks who believe now are clear their GOD made all of it in spite of the fact there are LITERALLY thousands of OOL tales and YOU think only MY version of OOL is TRUE, ALL those other tales are blasphemy and those non believers will go to HELL and DAMNATION.
Right, a GOD would care who or what humans worshipped like we are SO special on the universe scale a GOD talks to us.
That is the height of arrogance to think a god would care about THIS planet.
If a god made Earth it would have liked it as a refuge for life, do you think WE are keeping up that tradition? Not likely since we are now in the midst of a mass extinction event OF OUR OWN MAKING.
So when is your god going to stop our greed and avarice which is destroying the ecology of the entire planet and YOU think we deserve the attention of a GOD?
@sonhouse saidAll you do is complain about God and never address the points brought up.
OOL is an ongoing 200 year scientific project and all you can do is do your arrogant GODDIDIT, and FK all you IDIOTIC scientists who can't see the light.
Even though there are some 5000 OOL myths including Christianity which stole the idea of a 7 day building the universe and rest on day 7, anthropomorphizing a GOD? Like a GOD who invents an entire universe would even ha ...[text shortened]... hich is destroying the ecology of the entire planet and YOU think we deserve the attention of a GOD?
@KellyJay saidBecause the points you bring up are part of your agenda to ''Prove" GODDIDIT.
All you do is complain about God and never address the points brought up.
I like people who can at least TRY to follow the latest in OOL science.
I see articles all the time of some new twist involving RNA Vs DNA and the like but none of that would ever interest you since your mind is closed to the idea that mere humans can figure it all out even if it takes a thousand years of expanding technology and techniques and AI to the hilt, I doubt if you would believe the results showing say Earth was bombarded by early organics and some coming from asteroids already rich in the molecules your guy says takes BILLIONS of years to even get as far as membranes but you take anything he says as golden.
@sonhouse saidThe points I brought up stand on their own; you can choose to address them or change the subject. I’ll respond to honest discussions on these; your attempts to avoid answering them reflect on you, not me.
Because the points you bring up are part of your agenda to ''Prove" GODDIDIT.
I like people who can at least TRY to follow the latest in OOL science.
I see articles all the time of some new twist involving RNA Vs DNA and the like but none of that would ever interest you since your mind is closed to the idea that mere humans can figure it all out even if it takes a thousan ...[text shortened]... ays takes BILLIONS of years to even get as far as membranes but you take anything he says as golden.
@KellyJay saidOk, but your apparent job is to discredit any work suggesting OOL came naturally, just in response to the laws of physics and the argument can be made a god made our universe not to have life appear on one planet, all cards on one table, it makes a LOT more sense such a universe making god would design it for life but with quadrillions of planetary experiments to do it with the tools of physics said god provided to this universe, water boiling at 100C, E=MC^2 TBD, which we did, now to figure out where quantum physics applies here.
The points I brought up stand on their own; you can choose to address them or change the subject. I’ll respond to honest discussions on these; your attempts to avoid answering them reflect on you, not me.
I have a 1/4 baked theory about telepathy, if our brains have quantum functionality then the possibility arises that brains connect vie superpossitions we know happens where one say neuron interacts via quantum physics directly to a compatico neuron in someone else's brain, maybe even connecting with animals.
And of course fully acknowledging that to be not even a theory yet, just a conjecture but at least it passes the Popper test, it can be falsified so we could perhaps get real data in a lab setting probing that idea, which I assume would be run like the card reading tests of the 1950's, but AI analysis of data, maybe it would find correlations we humans would miss. So at this point it is a conjecture.
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@sonhouse saidI’m putting forth ideas; you are more than welcome to find errors and refute my thinking logically. Just saying you like what is there without details or reasons is a little weak. I’d say that would be like anyone who said God did it, and that was all of their point; your argument is no different, other than instead of God, you are going with evolution did it.
Ok, but your apparent job is to discredit any work suggesting OOL came naturally, just in response to the laws of physics and the argument can be made a god made our universe not to have life appear on one planet, all cards on one table, it makes a LOT more sense such a universe making god would design it for life but with quadrillions of planetary experiments to do it with ...[text shortened]... of data, maybe it would find correlations we humans would miss. So at this point it is a conjecture.
@sonhouse said
I have a 1/4 baked theory about telepathy, if our brains have quantum functionality then the possibility arises that brains connect vie superpossitions we know happens where one say neuron interacts via quantum physics directly to a compatico neuron in someone else's brain, maybe even connecting with animals.
And of course fully acknowledging that to be not even a theory ...[text shortened]... of data, maybe it would find correlations we humans would miss. So at this point it is a conjecture.
You may or may not find this interesting, there’s many tapes by her.
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@mike69 saidI wonder if there is independent verification of these demonstrations? There is a lot of work and tales and I see some lab work done years ago, forget who did the studies but I think they found "telepathy'' stats were above random selections, don't know how far above random they went, I mean if it was say 0.5% above random that would not be much to write home about, 80% above randomness would be a different story.
https://youtu.be/nKbA2NBZGqo
You may or may not find this interesting, there’s many tapes by her.
If these demos are true the only way I can see that happening for real is quantum physics going on in the brain and the possibility of superpositions
@sonhouse saidI’m not sure, she has been studying this in mostly non verbal autistic and some others on the spectrum for I believe 30 years with a lot of credentials. There are like 10 tapes of different studies, I couldn’t make it that far but watching one or two is interesting. Speaking for myself, it seems people on the spectrum attract one another.
I wonder if there is independent verification of these demonstrations? There is a lot of work and tales and I see some lab work done years ago, forget who did the studies but I think they found "telepathy'' stats were above random selections, don't know how far above random they went, I mean if it was say 0.5% above random that would not be much to write home about, 80% abo ...[text shortened]... at happening for real is quantum physics going on in the brain and the possibility of superpositions
For me I believe in God as our creator. For ourselves and all life, everything around us to be random in my opinion is all just to precise to be random. Now throw in having our own life support system put in place perfectly to all work together along with all the eco systems in balance to support all life.
Saying this we were created with the ability to connect with our creator through prayer/relationship. So in turn I feel we are all connected through this same natural connection drowned out by doubt, fear, being put down, and all the world has put on us.
You could look at our souls as being our four dimensional self interacting on that level. I do believe in this natural ability, maybe not needed any more. As far as what level of interaction, I don’t know, but it is there. I’ve had way too many things happen in my own life for it not to be true. I’m not talking about having direct communication with someone, or dead people, back forth, but there is way more to our senses than what we know and understand and our energy.
Animals pick up on the same level of senses. I’ve just walked through my gate really angry, but normal, and as soon as I did both my horses reared up and ran off. This is just one example, and goes in both directions when calm or happy. We put off an energy that can be felt.
Do you feel there is more to you, deeper, another level than just a clump of meat and bones?
@mike69 saidI had K-8 at First Lutheran Church and school in El Monte California where I was born and saw when I was very young something seriously wrong with this religion like original sin and a man is worrth 50 shekels but a woman only 35 shekels.
I’m not sure, she has been studying this in mostly non verbal autistic and some others on the spectrum for I believe 30 years with a lot of credentials. There are like 10 tapes of different studies, I couldn’t make it that far but watching one or two is interesting. Speaking for myself, it seems people on the spectrum attract one another.
For me I believe in God as our ...[text shortened]... lt.
Do you feel there is more to you, deeper, another level than just a clump of meat and bones?
This kind of political posturing really soured my journey in spiritual matters.
But now that the universe has been shown to be weirder than we ever thought, particles tunneling through energy barriers when that should not happen but does, so our understanding of the universe and what is really going on is in the throes of change and better understanding of how the universe works.
So you have horses, that is something! Where do you live? We came from Scottsdale after Venice Beach and now in the Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania.