Originally posted by twhitehead
And right there you highlight two issues.
1. People associate race with nationality. Xenophobia and racism often work together.
2. You for one, do recognize race (I am not saying you are a racist)
Scientifically speaking, I don't see that the word 'race' is valid.
So wen people in general use the word 'race', they usually mean white, black, yellow, and red. Perhaps also the 'jewish race', and some kind of 'arab race'.
It's easy to differ a black from a white, but anything in between? Obama is darker than Michael Jackson, but lighter than bin Ladin. Even when I have a tan after a trip to warmer beaches I tend to have a darker skin (or perhaps redder). But does that makes me coloured? No, of course not. So the colour of the skin has no importance, the race shouldn't either.
The Swedish racists are more xenophobic than anything else. They don't care about race even if they say so. They are against everything that is not 'Swedish like', including people with Downs syndrome, muslims, gay people, jews, and imigrants to Sweden. One of the most famous rascists in Sweden, Jackie Arklöv, is black himslf. A gang of racists in Göteborg (where I live) had one jew in their crew. They don't care about race. Most of the organized members is not enough intelectual to have a ideology at all (except of a very minimal group of leaders.)
The White Arish Resistance (Vitt Ariskt Motstånd, VAM), are they still active? I don't think so. National Socialist Front, same question. Nationaldemocraterna, ditto?
But what we have is Sverigedemokraterna, SD. They are beginning to take ground in the political world in Sweden. But they are not doing anything. They are "racists de salon". They just want to change the immigration policy in Sween, that's the only thing they talk about.
Well, we can debate this, but it is far off topic in this thread "What is race?".
My questions was: "Why is it so important, this race stuff?
Is it only the colour of the skin, or has it a deeper significance?
Hitler thought it was important to classify races. Do we still think this classification is important?" That's on topic.
(What about high horses, Palyanka, I don't understand this notion. Perhaps we should drop it anyway, it seems too hot, perhaps personal...)