Wouldn't it be great if you could add users to a personal ignore list? I know there are a couple of people who have scared a lot of people away from the debates forum. If we had a feature that would ignore their post entirely, then the trolls wouldn't have nearly as much power over the discussions.
Originally posted by Draxus Wouldn't it be great if you could add users to a personal ignore list? I know there are a couple of people who have scared a lot of people away from the debates forum. If we had a feature that would ignore their post entirely, then the trolls wouldn't have nearly as much power over the discussions.
Is this even possible?
Those same trolls would start crying censorship, and freedom of speech. If they're American, they'd cry about their First Ammendment rights, until they figured out that this site is not American.
But yeah, it's a good idea. The only problem I see is the constant threats as people start getting annoyed by other posters (i.e. "Keep it up, you'll be in my Ignore list"😉, and the fact you'll still see the ignored poster's posts second-hand if someone Replies and Quotes them.
Originally posted by Draxus Wouldn't it be great if you could add users to a personal ignore list? I know there are a couple of people who have scared a lot of people away from the debates forum. If we had a feature that would ignore their post entirely, then the trolls wouldn't have nearly as much power over the discussions.
Is this even possible?
How does one get scared away from a Debates Forum? By being exposed to dissenting views? Surely that's the point?
Besides, one person's troll is another person's hero.
Originally posted by treetalk Besides, one person's troll is another person's hero.
That's the whole point with this site idea, isn't it? If everybody would agree who's a troll, you could simply ban the troll. But in most cases there will be people who like to read the posts of the person and others who don't. A personal ignore list would make it possible to let the person post without annoying those who don't want to read the posts. Personally I don't think I'd ever put someone on my ignore list though, unless it's someone who posts pure spam (e.g. the same phrase over and over again, and never anything else), which I think should still be bannable. I think it would make it difficult to follow a discussion if you can't see all posts.
Originally posted by Nordlys How so? Freedom of speech doesn't mean you have a right to be listened to by everybody.
I agree with this... I think that people should be able to moderate their own threads - We should be able to ban users from posting on threads we've started once they've posted something (therefore not preemptively).
Originally posted by ItalyBoyBlue I agree with this... I think that people should be able to moderate their own threads - We should be able to ban users from posting on threads we've started once they've posted something (therefore not preemptively).
I very much disagree with this. You don't own the threads you create, they are part of a public forum. If you feel that someone violates the TOS, you can report it. If you just personally dislike the posts or the poster, that shouldn't be a reason to ban the user from posting in "your" thread.
Originally posted by Nordlys I very much disagree with this. You don't own the threads you create, they are part of a public forum. If you feel that someone violates the TOS, you can report it. If you just personally dislike the posts or the poster, that shouldn't be a reason to ban the user from posting in "your" thread.
Another problem is that a user who does not see some of the posts in the thread loses the ability to follow the discussion of that thread in the proper context.
Are users willing to be excluded from a discussion any time one of the 'ignored' participates?
Originally posted by BigDoggProblem Another problem is that a user who does not see some of the posts in the thread loses the ability to follow the discussion of that thread in the proper context.
Are users willing to be excluded from a discussion any time one of the 'ignored' participates?
If people would be concerned about that, then they would be using the Ignore List for the wrong reasons. It shouldn't be used to ignore someone you simply don't see eye to eye with. That would pretty much defeat the whole purpose of this community. It should only be used to ignore posters who contribute absolutely nothing to a constructive debate or conversation, but instead spam the boards with the same nonsense over and over, or bait and/or flame others.
Originally posted by Natural Science If people would be concerned about that, then they would be using the Ignore List for the wrong reasons. It shouldn't be used to ignore someone you simply don't see eye to eye with. That would pretty much defeat the whole purpose of this community. It should only be used to ignore posters who contribute absolutely nothing to a constructive debate ...[text shortened]... but instead spam the boards with the same nonsense over and over, or bait and/or flame others.
There are some posters who could be viewed as 'contributing nothing' to the thread, yet many in the thread respond to them. What good does it do to censor such a person? You'll just be left with a thread that stops making sense every time people interact with the person you wish to censor. [The reason for censorship is irrelevant...]
proper use of the Moderation system, or proper moderation is the right answer to the problem. . .not sticking your fingeres in your ears and singing La la la la la la .
Originally posted by Nordlys How so? Freedom of speech doesn't mean you have a right to be listened to by everybody.
Exactly... that would be like if I were to wander into a rally and someone stopped me from leaving saying, "This guy has the right to say what he wants, and YOU MUST listen."