Originally posted by PsychoPawnI think he means the other way - turning a member 'not available' when their settings say otherwise.
That's pretty bad - I wouldn't want anyone changing my availability but me.
After all, the clan leader doesn't know why I would be unavailable so they shouldn't be able to make me available. By making me available when I wouldn't want to be would only increase my gameload to a level that I wouldn't be prepared for and hence cost the clan games.
Originally posted by orangutanI'm all for being able to choose which clans I'm available for.
I think he means the other way - turning a member 'not available' when their settings say otherwise.
It would have to be both your clan leader AND you saying you are available before you're put into the frame for challenges (I think).
This would need to be done along side members being able to choose which clans they are available for and which they are not, one flag (as at present) is not flexible enough.
Originally posted by AmsterdamnSo you already compensate for that as a very good clan leader would - hence no need for the intrusive option
Now, when they are at their max. amount of clan games, we still get challenges with those players included, so I bounce it back without those players.. then I get a bounce and see the players back again.. so I have to bounce and send an additional message why that specific player can not be included.. etc...
Originally posted by PsychoPawnBut it wouldn't be YOUR settings that are changed.
So you already compensate for that as a very good clan leader would - hence no need for the intrusive option
My problem isn't the theory, it's the idea that anyone but yourself should be allowed to modify your settings.
My settings are exactly that - MY settings. I can see why this might be convenient for clan leaders, but a clan leader's convenience shouldn't be reason to give them the ability to change my settings in any way.
Originally posted by orangutanThe original poster talking about switching off my availability...that's what the original poster even clarified after his/her second post. I specifically asked about whether he was talking about changing the user's setting and he said yes. Unless that actually is not what he meant.
But it wouldn't be YOUR settings that are changed.
They would be additional settings for the clan leader to fiddle with.
You're already giving your clan leader the right to include or exclude you from a challenge as they see fit - you have no control in the matter as a clan member - so I'm not sure what your problem is?
Originally posted by PsychoPawnDear PsychoPawn,
I don't see why there even is a problem. The clan leader already has the option to not accept a challenge with a user if they believe them to be unavailable and so they should take that option and not bother with either being able to set a user's setting or having a redundant availability setting.
I'm not sure how you see this as a separate setting? ...[text shortened]... ks the user's is pretty close to being the same as being able to change the user's setting.
Originally posted by AmsterdamnHow is it a solution? You didn't change anything?
What is being said by some of us here is:
- When the player has made himself unavailable, Clan Leaders can NOT change that
- When the player has NOT made himself unavailable, the Clan Leaders should have to option to make that player unavailable
This to prevent receiving challenges where players are selected that are in fact not a ...[text shortened]... t want him to use this option for your settings! )
Would that be a good solution for you?
Originally posted by PsychoPawnAs it stands a clan leader can choose to add you to a challenge or omit you from a challenge that they set or accept.
How is it a solution? You didn't change anything?
A clan leader (or any other user) should not be able to change my settings under any circumstances.
I would accept this ONLY if you changed "you can tell your clan leader that you don't want him to use this option for your settings" to "you can prevent the clan leader from ever using this option wh ...[text shortened]... "Allow clan leaders to turn availability off" that is by default not set for any user.
Originally posted by orangutanYou are stating the obvious when you say that clan leaders can give you games over your limit stated. That's why there have been suggestions to allow users to limit clan availability based on clan.. so what? This doesn't override any user setting because that setting doesn't apply to clan settings. Frankly, I would have no problem at all if it did. In fact, that's a good suggestion
As it stands a clan leader can choose to add you to a challenge or omit you from a challenge that they set or accept.
This has nothing to do with YOUR settings of clan challenge acceptance.
Clan leaders can see the number of games that a member has set as their preferred limit (My settings -> My Challenge Settings -> Maximum Games). They can give you t included in a challenge anyway - this idea is not really detracting from members rights.