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    29 May '09 14:47
    Hallo together,

    I think it is time to throw the different ways of clubs and clans away.
    We need a combination of both.
    Every leader of a club should make teams like in the clanleague - with a maxiumum 10 instead of 6 members.
    Therefore he should make more teams, a new team when the old one is full.
    The challange of the teams should do the robot of RHP.
    Every team gets the same number on challanges in the month. Perhaps it could be grouped in three different groups- many normal or few games. This could be in three divisions.
    For the ranking, similar like in all sports-league; 3 points for a win 1 point for a draw and the netpoints.
    If there are not enough members for a team, the highest members play to each other. At least it should be more than 4 members in a team.
    Also there ar other challanges possible, but not valued for the clan-ranking
  2. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    29 May '09 15:46
    Originally posted by Hannilein007
    Hallo together,

    I think it is time to throw the different ways of clubs and clans away.
    We need a combination of both.
    Every leader of a club should make teams like in the clanleague - with a maxiumum 10 instead of 6 members.
    Therefore he should make more teams, a new team when the old one is full.
    The challange of the teams should do the robot o ...[text shortened]... members in a team.
    Also there ar other challanges possible, but not valued for the clan-ranking
    Can't work.

    Clubs are like going to library to play your friends.

    Clans are like going to war.

    If you use a club, you're their with your friends, and might be in several.

    If you are in clan you may be in 1 or 4 at most.

    They are not combined, and should not be. I for sure wouldn't want my clan and club combined, they are separate entities with NOTHING in common.

    P-
  3. Joined
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    29 May '09 17:02
    Yes in a club you play with friends, that would not change.
    I think on the chess clubs in the real world.
    Only the members, who want to play in teams against other, should do this.
    Like the function avaibable for clanleague.
  4. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    29 May '09 17:19
    Originally posted by Hannilein007
    Yes in a club you play with friends, that would not change.
    I think on the chess clubs in the real world.
    Only the members, who want to play in teams against other, should do this.
    Like the function avaibable for clanleague.
    Perhaps call it 'team play' as not to confuse the separate Clan function.

    P-
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    29 May '09 17:50
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    Perhaps call it 'team play' as not to confuse the separate Clan function.

    P-
    Good idea teamplay is a good word for this 😀
  6. THORNINYOURSIDE
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    29 May '09 18:03
    Originally posted by Hannilein007
    Hallo together,

    I think it is time to throw the different ways of clubs and clans away.
    We need a combination of both.
    Every leader of a club should make teams like in the clanleague - with a maxiumum 10 instead of 6 members.
    Therefore he should make more teams, a new team when the old one is full.
    The challange of the teams should do the robot o ...[text shortened]... members in a team.
    Also there ar other challanges possible, but not valued for the clan-ranking
    Bad idea.

    Clubs are for all, subs or non subs.

    Clans are for those willing to pay to play.
  7. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    29 May '09 18:18
    Originally posted by adramforall
    Bad idea.

    Clubs are for all, subs or non subs.

    Clans are for those willing to pay to play.
    Non subs can join clubs, can't join tourneys. Same would go for 'team play'.

    P-
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    29 May '09 19:25
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    Non subs can join clubs, can't join tourneys. Same would go for 'team play'.

    P-
    That is right.

    Also the benefit for non-subscribers in clubs is very low. And that is good so.
  9. Joined
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    29 May '09 19:49
    The problem in the actual situation is:

    1. have two forums for communication with your friends.
    2. limited in memebers by the clan, because of the rating-rules necessary;
    but when someone make a break he must leave the clan and cannot
    communcate with the other over the forum.
    3. The work for the leader to manage challanges.
    4. You cannot help weaker members for an example in a second team
  10. Standard memberbarstudd
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    30 May '09 03:014 edits
    Originally posted by Hannilein007
    The problem in the actual situation is:

    1. have two forums for communication with your friends.
    2. limited in memebers by the clan, because of the rating-rules necessary;
    but when someone make a break he must leave the clan and cannot
    communcate with the other over the forum.
    3. The work for the leader to manage challanges.
    4. You cannot help weaker members for an example in a second team
    I guess It may make for better quality league tournaments,

    but the only complication I can see is members who are joined to multiple clubs, how or what determines the actual club league the member will play for?.

    It could work as long as the clan forum is still seperate from the club,
    may take a little thought to get it right if the merger went ahead.

    and it appears Club administration cant be change unlike clan leaders, maybe this should be looked at also.
  11. Joined
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    30 May '09 09:18
    Originally posted by barstudd
    I guess It may make for better quality league tournaments,

    but the only complication I can see is members who are joined to multiple clubs, how or what determines the actual club league the member will play for?.

    It could work as long as the clan forum is still seperate from the club,
    may take a little thought to get it right if the merger went ahe ...[text shortened]... ars Club administration cant be change unlike clan leaders, maybe this should be looked at also.
    First there will be a big problem with the club-administrator, when it will be not changable like in the clans. What will be, when the adminstrator isn't avaibable for his members (big illness or dead).

    You can manage the league tournament like the avaibable for only one clan in the clanleague. I think it is also necessary, that the adminstrator can make teams, but each player must decide themself, if he is avaibable for a team. Therefore it could be something in the Settings, where he choose this 😉
  12. SubscriberKewpie
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    30 May '09 23:091 edit
    You can change club leaders, I've done it, just send feedback. My request (both old and new leaders sent the request) was attended to very promptly. The process may take a little longer if the old leader isn't around, that's all.

    The concept of clubs (like clubs of football supporters) having a subscriber-only team to represent them sounds great. I think it would bring an increase in team spirit for nonsubs (which can't be bad for the subscription count).
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    31 May '09 10:40
    Originally posted by Kewpie
    You can change club leaders, I've done it, just send feedback. My request (both old and new leaders sent the request) was attended to very promptly. The process may take a little longer if the old leader isn't around, that's all.

    The concept of clubs (like clubs of football supporters) having a subscriber-only team to represent them sounds great. I thin ...[text shortened]... ring an increase in team spirit for nonsubs (which can't be bad for the subscription count).
    1. Thanks about your information about the changing of a club-administrator.

    2. Yes a teamleauge would be nice for the clubs. Also with the ability for more teams in different divisions.

    3. When there are a lot of subscriber (and also clanmeber) on RHP will hold on their old structures ans will not see the chance of this combination, they will seperate themself on a long time. I think the clanmember, which play in the clanleague see this a little different.
    Perhaps we can integrate the teams of the clubs in the existing league 😉
  14. SubscriberKewpie
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