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  1. Subscriber duecer
    anybody seen my
    04 Sep '07 12:49
    I think it would be a great idea to post how many times a player has lost a game due to timeouts on the stats page. It will help people choose better opponents, and also help clans determine who would be a good member.
  2. Standard member Daemon Sin
    I'm A Mighty Pirate™
    04 Sep '07 12:56
    Originally posted by duecer
    I think it would be a great idea to post how many times a player has lost a game due to timeouts on the stats page. It will help people choose better opponents, and also help clans determine who would be a good member.
    What about people who have had timeouts due to illness or problems with their internet connections. Would it be fair to label them as 'bad players' as well?
  3. Subscriber duecer
    anybody seen my
    04 Sep '07 13:03
    Originally posted by Daemon Sin
    What about people who have had timeouts due to illness or problems with their internet connections. Would it be fair to label them as 'bad players' as well?
    I don't think it labels them as bad players, but "potentially" bad challanges. The recent thread you commented in about banded tournies and sanbaggers are also relevent here. If a player has a habit of letting games lapse, then gets interested again, s/he might enter a tournie, and clean up.

    As for clans, if you were head of a clan, would you pick a player with 50 or 60 recent timeouts? I think your clan might suffer if you did.
  4. 04 Sep '07 13:08 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by duecer
    I don't think it labels them as bad players, but "potentially" bad challanges. The recent thread you commented in about banded tournies and sanbaggers are also relevent here. If a player has a habit of letting games lapse, then gets interested again, s/he might enter a tournie, and clean up.

    As for clans, if you were head of a clan, would you pick a player with 50 or 60 recent timeouts? I think your clan might suffer if you did.
    One of my clan members just let all his games go to time out. And among these there were 18 league games, ruining all this season. I asked him why, he said that he got other priorities. He will never again enter a league for my clan anymore, no way.

    If a member asks me to join my clan and I know he has a lot of time outs, then I politely ask him why, and with not the right answer he will not enter my clan.

    I think too that this information should be on of the statistics about a member.
  5. Standard member Daemon Sin
    I'm A Mighty Pirate™
    04 Sep '07 13:28
    Originally posted by duecer
    As for clans, if you were head of a clan, would you pick a player with 50 or 60 recent timeouts? I think your clan might suffer if you did.
    You've just proven my point:

    Having that figure on their account instantly puts the player in a negative light. There could be any number of legitimate reasons why a player has had a high number of timeouts (recent or not) that aren't being taken into consideration. For example: imagine if a member of your family died, you lost your internet connection or you had an accident; and you were unable to access the site for a few weeks. Would you like your account permanently 'branded' with the number of timeouts you received in your absence?

    Also, it seems irrelevant putting it on a user's stat page. Any time you look at their statistics the graph makes their recent form blatantly obvious.
  6. 04 Sep '07 13:55
    Originally posted by Daemon Sin
    You've just proven my point:

    Having that figure on their account instantly puts the player in a negative light. There could be any number of legitimate reasons why a player has had a high number of timeouts (recent or not) that aren't being taken into consideration. For example: imagine if a member of your family died, you lost your internet connection ...[text shortened]... Any time you look at their statistics the graph makes their recent form blatantly obvious.
    The information is there already. Look at the green graph. If it has a downhill slope you can suspect a series of timeouts. You can easily confirm it by looking in his public games. No problem to find the information!

    Why he has a series of time outs, is another question.
  7. 04 Sep '07 17:58
    Why not put a scarlett letter T over his profile. That would be better.

    Fabian, as you suggested, the information is already there so no need to add it, right?
  8. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    04 Sep '07 18:07
    Originally posted by PsychoPawn
    Why not put a scarlett letter T over his profile. That would be better.

    Fabian, as you suggested, the information is already there so no need to add it, right?
    I think if you get timed out you should not be able to post in the forums for a week, and also not be able to make any chess moves. Something needs to be done to prevent people from getting timed out.

    P-
  9. 04 Sep '07 19:08
    Originally posted by PsychoPawn
    Fabian, as you suggested, the information is already there so no need to add it, right?
    You're right in this, but it takes som research to do it.

    As a clan leader I want this information instantly whenever someone wants to join the clan. Then I can ask him about his excessive time-out frequence right away.

    No clan leader loves members who frequdntly uses timeouts for dubious reasons.

    The scarlet T over his name is not efficient, neither is a tatoo on his forehead.
  10. 04 Sep '07 23:30
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    You're right in this, but it takes som research to do it.

    As a clan leader I want this information instantly whenever someone wants to join the clan. Then I can ask him about his excessive time-out frequence right away.

    No clan leader loves members who frequdntly uses timeouts for dubious reasons.

    The scarlet T over his name is not efficient, neither is a tatoo on his forehead.
    So having higher priorities than chess isn't a good enough reason?

    Frankly, I hope the vast majority of people here have higher priorities than chess.

    The prime reason I'm against this is what Daemon Sin mentioned pretty much. It will serve as a tattoo on the forehead of any player.