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  1. 03 May '08 00:56
    This is more or less a copy and paste from my suggestion in the only chess forum

    I have often seen players around 1800 for example who, either through massive timeouts or other reasons, drop 400 or 500 points, and then regain all those points later. During that time, players of 1300 and 1400 strength play them expecting an even game, and unfairly play an 1800 player with a 1400 rating. I think rating floors like the USCF's would be a good idea to remedy this.
  2. Subscriber Very Rusty
    Treat Everyone Equal
    03 May '08 01:59
    Yes, That has been suggested before, and I still think it is a good idea!
  3. 14 May '08 14:03
    Yes please - or set a TER calculated from highest in last 200 days at least. Better still, 365 days.
  4. Standard member RDM
    15 May '08 06:03
    Recc'ed.
  5. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    15 May '08 10:52 / 1 edit
    This is coming very soon. (Next few days)

    -Russ
  6. Standard member neonpeon41
    The Conductor
    15 May '08 11:02
    Originally posted by Russ
    This is coming very soon. (Next few days)

    -Russ
    I will be glad to see this.

    np
  7. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    15 May '08 14:01
    Originally posted by Russ
    This is coming very soon. (Next few days)

    -Russ
    What is your decided formula? Top rating minus... ?

    Average rating minus.. ?

    P-
  8. 15 May '08 15:52
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    What is your decided formula? Top rating minus... ?

    Average rating minus.. ?

    P-
    Your age multiplied by 13.876 divided by 1.763, Then add the age of your granny, take away the age of your oldest cut toenail, and the number of hairs on the palm of your hand and then divide the answer by the number of hairs on your left bum cheek.
  9. Subscriber Very Rusty
    Treat Everyone Equal
    15 May '08 20:01 / 5 edits
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    What is your decided formula? Top rating minus... ?

    Average rating minus.. ?

    P-
    Caissad4 Said:
    I like the way it was suggested in USCF: Create a permanent rating floor by rounding highest rating down (ex: a 2050 rated would become 2000 then subtract 200 points, making it impossible for a 2000 player to ever play in banded tourneys below 1800. If that player ever reaches 2100 his permanent floor would become 1900.

    I think this seems like a very good scale to use? V R

    How to determine what a users rating is could be done by the graph perhaps? The rating that is most constant. I truly don't even know what mine would be as I go between 1400's and 1800. I am sure my graph would show where I am mostly at though.

    Thank You Russ, however you decide to do it
  10. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    15 May '08 20:58
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    Caissad4 Said:
    I like the way it was suggested in USCF: Create a permanent rating floor by rounding highest rating down (ex: a 2050 rated would become 2000 then subtract 200 points, making it impossible for a 2000 player to ever play in banded tourneys below 1800. If that player ever reaches 2100 his permanent floor would become 1900.

    I think this see ...[text shortened]... raph would show where I am mostly at though.

    Thank You Russ, however you decide to do it
    My highest rating ever was around 1570. If my floor was 1370, that would be just fine.

    Floors would also help when someone gets timed out in a hundred games. You were playing him and doing well, next their rating crashes to near nothing and you get jack!

    Will also be interesting... new graphs would flat line, rather than "V" dive to near zero.

    P-
  11. Subscriber Very Rusty
    Treat Everyone Equal
    15 May '08 22:31 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    My highest rating ever was around 1570. If my floor was 1370, that would be just fine.

    Floors would also help when someone gets timed out in a hundred games. You were playing him and doing well, next their rating crashes to near nothing and you get jack!

    Will also be interesting... new graphs would flat line, rather than "V" dive to near zero.

    P-
    I think mine at 1800 is inflated from game load, but I could live with the 1600 floor rating.

    This should help solve the sandbagging, where the high rated players, lowers their rating to play in a lower rated tourney.

    I guess the next problem will be people purposely keeping their ratings low...But the bigger part of the problem will certainly be solved.

    I believe if done the USCF way it is rounded off to the closest 100, if I under stand it correctly. Then -200 points ! Someone feel free to correct me on this if I am wrong.
  12. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    16 May '08 00:20
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    I think mine at 1800 is inflated from game load, but I could live with the 1600 floor rating.

    This should help solve the sandbagging, where the high rated players, lowers their rating to play in a lower rated tourney.

    I guess the next problem will be people purposely keeping their ratings low...But the bigger part of the problem will certainly be so ...[text shortened]... er stand it correctly. Then -200 points ! Someone feel free to correct me on this if I am wrong.
    I thought USCF did not set the floor until X games were played at a certain rating class, but I could be wrong.

    You're correct that USCF rounds down to the nearest hundred and then subtracts some set value of points [I think it is 200, as you and caissad4 have said, but I'm not 100% sure].
  13. Standard member caissad4
    Child of the Novelty
    16 May '08 05:55 / 2 edits
    The original proposal was to use 200 points but was later lowered to 100 since the average OTB player completes under 50 games a year.
    Here at RHP most of us complete far more games a year than 50.
    200 points appears to be appropriate.
    I complete over 1000 games a year.
  14. 16 May '08 11:40
    Originally posted by Russ
    This is coming very soon. (Next few days)

    -Russ
    Can someone explain to me how this will not lead to grade inflation?

    To exaggerate, if someone rated 2401, and playing 100 games resigns everything, then 100 players get a rating boost by winning against a 2200 (if the system above is used) rated player. But no-one loses any points. Overall, more points get added to the system - giving inflation.

    Why I care:
    I try hard to play my best, and play (veerrry) slowly. Even if the inflation is only 50 points per year, I'll struggle to keep up!

    Cheers,
    Gezza
  15. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    16 May '08 13:50
    Originally posted by gezza
    Can someone explain to me how this will not lead to grade inflation?

    To exaggerate, if someone rated 2401, and playing 100 games resigns everything, then 100 players get a rating boost by winning against a 2200 (if the system above is used) rated player. But no-one loses any points. Overall, more points get added to the system - giving inflation.

    Why ...[text shortened]... Even if the inflation is only 50 points per year, I'll struggle to keep up!

    Cheers,
    Gezza
    In the grand scope of things, 100 players getting an extra 10 to 40 points now and again shouldn't mess things up too much. It will trickle down, and perhaps average RHP ratings may go up 1 or 3 points.

    What goes up, will come down.

    P-