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    This is an idea which stems from the unrest caused by no1marauder's vocal frustration against engine use on this site and the mystery behind the working of the game moderator team.

    It seems that Mr. Tebb has his reasons behind not publishing the names of those who have been outed as cheaters whereas a lot of us forumers tend to disagree and would like to see the names of those who have been caught and/or a progress report of some kind that would give us an idea of how effective the game mod team has been. I think we should put the idea to a vote. The results would be very telling as to what the best move for the Site would be.

    So, who's with me? A vote, yes?
  2. Standard memberNyxie
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    06 Jul '05 16:46
    Originally posted by darvlay
    This is an idea which stems from the unrest caused by no1marauder's vocal frustration against engine use on this site and the mystery behind the working of the game moderator team.

    It seems that Mr. Tebb has his reasons behind not publishing the names of those who have been outed as cheaters whereas a lot of us forumers tend to disagree and would like ...[text shortened]... ry telling as to what the best move for the Site would be.

    So, who's with me? A vote, yes?
    I vote for a vote, yes.
  3. The sky
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    06 Jul '05 16:51
    I vote for a vote, too. I wonder whether there should be more options than just "publish the names" and "don't publish the names", though. I am thinking of something like "give information to the person who reported the cheating / to all who are currently playing the cheater / to all who ever played the cheater (probably not a practical solution)".
  4. Fear The Cow
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    06 Jul '05 17:10
    I vote for a vote
  5. Donationmurrow
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    yeah let's VOTE baby
  6. Standard memberAiko
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    Aye
  7. Standard memberRagnorak
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    06 Jul '05 19:06
    Originally posted by darvlay
    This is an idea which stems from the unrest caused by no1marauder's vocal frustration against engine use on this site and the mystery behind the working of the game moderator team.

    It seems that Mr. Tebb has his reasons behind not publishing the names of those who have been outed as cheaters whereas a lot of us forumers tend to disagree and would like ...[text shortened]... ry telling as to what the best move for the Site would be.

    So, who's with me? A vote, yes?
    I vote that we petition Russ to open the admin of the voting to the public, so we can set up our own votes, and vote officially on whether we want to vote or not.

    All those in favour, say huh?

    D
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    06 Jul '05 19:23
    Originally posted by darvlay
    This is an idea which stems from the unrest caused by no1marauder's vocal frustration against engine use on this site and the mystery behind the working of the game moderator team.

    It seems that Mr. Tebb has his reasons behind not publishing the names of those who have been outed as cheaters whereas a lot of us forumers tend to disagree and would like ...[text shortened]... ry telling as to what the best move for the Site would be.

    So, who's with me? A vote, yes?
    I realise i'm going to be inthe minority here, but i'm not sure that humiliating people in public is either very nice or very constructive. People have feelings, why deliberately hurt them?
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    06 Jul '05 19:24
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    I vote for a vote, too. I wonder whether there should be more options than just "publish the names" and "don't publish the names", though. I am thinking of something like "give information to the person who reported the cheating / to all who are currently playing the cheater / to all who ever played the cheater (probably not a practical solution)".
    I suppose there are two different viable options:

    a) List of names
    b) Number of engine users exposed

    and then further options after that:

    a) Tell everyone
    b) Tell subscribers
    c) Tell current opponents

    By the following choice of methods:

    a) Private Message
    b) Forum Announcement
    c) New page in under 'Community'
    d) Telepathy
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    06 Jul '05 19:25
    Originally posted by bambee
    I realise i'm going to be inthe minority here, but i'm not sure that humiliating people in public is either very nice or very constructive. People have feelings, why deliberately hurt them?
    If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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    We need to realize something though.... Tebb is the one putting in the hours to catch these guys, and yet we're all in here holding a rally for him to do something against his will. If Tebb has strong feelings about not making these things public, then either we abide by his wishes or one of us becomes a mod ourselves and does what we want.


    -Kev
  12. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    06 Jul '05 23:18
    Originally posted by seraphimvulture
    We need to realize something though.... Tebb is the one putting in the hours to catch these guys, and yet we're all in here holding a rally for him to do something against his will. If Tebb has strong feelings about not making these things public, then either we abide by his wishes or one of us becomes a mod ourselves and does what we want.


    -Kev
    You can't be a mod and just do what you want... or the names would have been public from me already.

    If this vote comes around, I will vote no... This would be against my personal wishes, but I'm part of a tream. I voiced my ideas to DT and Russ, and cooler heads prevailed.

    On the other hand, Darv makes a good point about 'the crime'. I'm sitting on a fence with 2 legs on the side of 'not naming names'.

    P-

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    06 Jul '05 23:38
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    You can't be a mod and just do what you want... or the names would have been public from me already.

    If this vote comes around, I will vote no... This would be against my personal wishes, but I'm part of a tream. I voiced my ideas to DT and Russ, and cooler heads prevailed.

    On the other hand, Darv makes a good point about 'the crime'. I'm sitting on a fence with 2 legs on the side of 'not naming names'.

    P-

    I made my point the wrong way. I was simply saying that Tebb said himself that he didn't want the engine-users "outted" publically, and that he should be the one who has the most jurisdiction (besides Russ), since he's the one doing most of the work. It's kind of like when your family all disagrees on something and a vote is called for, and it ends up a tie and then the father yells out "No, we win, 'cause my vote counts twice, cause I run this house!".... 🙂 sorta like that. I just don't think it's necessarilly right to make volunteers do something against their will, since it's their will that makes them volunteers in the first place.


    -Kev
  14. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    07 Jul '05 00:19
    Originally posted by seraphimvulture
    I made my point the wrong way. I was simply saying that Tebb said himself that he didn't want the engine-users "outted" publically, and that he should be the one who has the most jurisdiction (besides Russ), since he's the one doing most of the work. It's kind of like when your family all disagrees on something and a vote is called for, and it e ...[text shortened]... inst their will, since it's their will that makes them volunteers in the first place.


    -Kev
    I figured as much, I just wanted to say I wish I could do whatever I like sometimes... even if it's not the best idea.

    P-
  15. Standard memberPalynka
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    07 Jul '05 01:38
    Originally posted by darvlay
    If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
    Why are false accusers not named as well, then?
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