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Originally posted by AgergAs far as I know, matematicians have proved that 1/0 cannot be defined and used in mathematics. Certainly you can always define that 1/0 = 5, but it doesn't fit with the rest of mathematics. So the equation x = 1/0 has no solution, none at all.
See, no mathematician has successfully managed to define 1/0 and since this is obviously an indication that mathematics is a woefully inadequate tool or pursuit by which we may appreciate/ understand the world around us or the subject in its own right I posit that 1/0 = ɣ
This real number is so big (yet less than infinity) that it cannot (and will not ( ...[text shortened]... person's god from an infinite set of all possible gods is the only explantion for everything.
Originally posted by AgergAny mathematician worth his salt can define 1/0 as anything he wants. However, he also knows that the equation 1/0=x where the symbols have their standard definitions is not a valid equation. It is not a case of x being unknown or undefined, but rather the equation not being meaningful.
See, no mathematician has successfully managed to define 1/0 and since this is obviously an indication that mathematics is a woefully inadequate tool or pursuit by which we may appreciate/ understand the world around us or the subject in its own right I posit that 1/0 = ɣ
Originally posted by twhiteheadThis discussion about math is living proof that you can learn more and more, about less and less, until you know everything about NOTHING!
Any mathematician worth his salt can define 1/0 as anything he wants. However, he also knows that the equation 1/0=x where the symbols have their standard definitions is not a valid equation. It is not a case of x being unknown or undefined, but rather the equation not being meaningful.
The implication of your post is that there exists a real number whic ...[text shortened]... o gives the answer 1. Under the standard definitions of those words, you would clearly be wrong.
Originally posted by bill718lol -
This discussion about math is living proof that you can learn more and more, about less and less, until you know everything about NOTHING!
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Originally posted by twhiteheadAny mathematician worth his salt can define 1/0 as anything he wants.
Any mathematician worth his salt can define 1/0 as anything he wants. However, he also knows that the equation 1/0=x where the symbols have their standard definitions is not a valid equation. It is not a case of x being unknown or undefined, but rather the equation not being meaningful.
The implication of your post is that there exists a real number whic ...[text shortened]... o gives the answer 1. Under the standard definitions of those words, you would clearly be wrong.
Originally posted by AgergI realized you weren't being serious, but I wondered what you aimed to achieve by using bad logic to argue against bad logic. I guess I misunderstood the sarcasm.
Any mathematician worth his salt can define 1/0 as anything he wants.
and ensure that the system within which he makes such a definition is useful and more importantly still...internally consistent???
believe it or believe it not I am a 2nd year undergrad in maths and so I'm not going to try and defend any such positions people may *think* I hold on ...[text shortened]... plete account of the mechanics of the universe else their god of the gaps theory is more valid.
Originally posted by AgergGod of the gaps ?
Any mathematician worth his salt can define 1/0 as anything he wants.
and ensure that the system within which he makes such a definition is useful and more importantly still...internally consistent???
believe it or believe it not I am a 2nd year undergrad in maths and so I'm not going to try and defend any such positions people may *think* I hold on ...[text shortened]... plete account of the mechanics of the universe else their god of the gaps theory is more valid.
Originally posted by jaywillI have never liked the word 'proof' when applied to reality. It just doesn't fit well. One cannot do a mathematical proof on reality and I really cant think what else the word could mean.
God of the gaps ?
There are plenty gaps in science ?
And lots of unproven stuff scientists put into those gaps.
Originally posted by AgergLook up fields, and if you want a salad, use vegetables, not words.
See, no mathematician has successfully managed to define 1/0 and since this is obviously an indication that mathematics is a woefully inadequate tool or pursuit by which we may appreciate/ understand the world around us or the subject in its own right I posit that 1/0 = ɣ
This real number is so big (yet less than infinity) that it cannot (and will not ( ...[text shortened]... person's god from an infinite set of all possible gods is the only explantion for everything.
Originally posted by jaywillNo we don't.
God of the gaps ?
There are plenty gaps in science ?
And lots of unproven stuff scientists put into those gaps.
Originally posted by ChronicLeakyAbstract algebra was one of my favorite topics when I got my degree in math. I mean, approaching one and zero not as as numbers for counting but rather elements of a set that have particular properties when used in a binary law of combination defined over that set? Cooool.
Look up fields, and if you want a salad, use vegetables, not words.
Originally posted by convectAbsolutely; your first sentence holds for me, too. I'm not sure why the original poster put this in the theology section; "a field is a ring whose multiplicative group of units is abelian and consists of all nonzero elements" and "any complete ordered Archimedean field is isomorphic to the reals" are hardly divine commandments (or are they?).
Abstract algebra was one of my favorite topics when I got my degree in math. I mean, approaching one and zero not as as numbers for counting but rather elements of a set that have particular properties when used in a binary law of combination defined over that set? Cooool.