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    http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020615/article_02.htm

    Enjoy....
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    08 Jun '12 19:50
    Originally posted by galveston75
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020615/article_02.htm

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    So when's this going to happen then?
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    08 Jun '12 20:01
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    So when's this going to happen then?
    "soon".

    It says so at least twice; once in the title dude...
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    08 Jun '12 20:26
    Originally posted by divegeester
    "soon".

    It says so at least twice; once in the title dude...
    How long is 'soon'?
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    08 Jun '12 20:441 edit
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    How long is 'soon'?
    If you bothered to research at the original greek you would find that there are at least 8 words linked to the popular meaning of "soon" and most of those derestrict the meaning to something more reseambling the contemporary readers interpretation of when the 'time of the gentiles' is concluded.
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    08 Jun '12 22:451 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    If you bothered to research at the original greek you would find that there are at least 8 words linked to the popular meaning of "soon" and most of those derestrict the meaning to something more reseambling the contemporary readers interpretation of when the 'time of the gentiles' is concluded.
    When do you think the 'time of the gentiles' will be concluded?
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    09 Jun '12 05:31
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    When do you think the 'time of the gentiles' will be concluded?
    1914
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    09 Jun '12 12:10
    Originally posted by divegeester
    1914
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    09 Jun '12 12:181 edit
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
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    World events are happening right on time. How so? Well, before Jesus gave the
    prophecy recorded at Luke 21:25-28, he foretold the second destruction of
    Jerusalem. True to his word, it occurred in 70 C.E. As for the surviving Jews, Jesus
    said: “They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations;
    and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the
    nations are fulfilled.” Those nations were non-Jewish, or Gentile. Hence, the period of
    trampling is often called “the times of the Gentiles.” (Luke 21:24, NW; King James
    Version) When did they end? Well, more is involved than what happened to earthly
    Jerusalem. So the date when the Israelis took over control of the old walled city of
    Jerusalem, or the fact that it is the capital of the modern independent nation of
    Israel, is not the determining factor. God’s timetable is what matters!

    The Gentile Romans began trampling down Jerusalem in 63 B.C.E. But before them
    the Gentile Greeks, Persians, and Babylonians had trodden down that “city of the
    great King” Jehovah. (Matthew 5:34, 35) The Babylonians destroyed it and its
    temple in 607 B.C.E. From that time onward, the Gentile trampling upon what
    represented God’s Kingdom began, and the Gentile Times really started. Those
    Gentile Times were to be seven in number, each corresponding with a prophetic year
    of 360 days. On the basis of “a day for a year,” all “seven times” would total 2,520
    years. (Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:6; Daniel, chapter 4) Beginning with Jerusalem’s
    desolation in 607 B.C.E., they would end in 1914 C.E.

    As early as 1880, the Watch Tower magazine said that the Gentile Times would
    extend to the year 1914. Then with the publication of the book The Time Is at Hand
    in 1889, Bible students earth wide were further alerted to the fact that the Gentile
    Times would end in the autumn of 1914.

    Well, then, in that year, did old Jerusalem cease to be trampled on by non-Jewish, or
    Gentile, nations? No, for in 1914 the historic city was still in the hands of the Turkish
    Empire, the ally of imperial Germany. On December 9, 1917, it was taken from the
    Turks by British troops under General Allenby. Jerusalem continued under British
    rule by mandate of the League of Nations until 1948. Then the Jews rose up and
    captured the western part of modern Jerusalem outside the old walled city. The
    walled city was taken over by the Muhammadans. How, then, can we say that the
    Gentile Times ended in 1914? Because in that year the government of the great King
    Jehovah was born in heaven.


    source : Jehovah's Christian witnesses, proclaimers of Gods Kingdom.
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    10 Jun '12 09:51
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    World events are happening right on time. How so? Well, before Jesus gave the
    prophecy recorded at Luke 21:25-28, he foretold the second destruction of
    Jerusalem. True to his word, it occurred in 70 C.E. As for the surviving Jews, Jesus
    said: “They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations;
    and Jerusalem will ...[text shortened]... was born in heaven.


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    10 Jun '12 16:43
    Originally posted by divegeester
    1914
    when is 1914 going to happen?
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    10 Jun '12 19:211 edit
    well maybe they learned their lesson as I see no specific date just soon.


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    10 Jun '12 19:22
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    when is 1914 going to happen?
    What calendar are you using?
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    10 Jun '12 21:03
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    World events are happening right on time. How so? Well, before Jesus gave the
    prophecy recorded at Luke 21:25-28, he foretold the second destruction of
    Jerusalem. True to his word, it occurred in 70 C.E. As for the surviving Jews, Jesus
    said: “They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations;
    and Jerusalem will ...[text shortened]... was born in heaven.


    source : Jehovah's Christian witnesses, proclaimers of Gods Kingdom.
    I seeing a different date for the Babylonians destroying Jerusalem and the temple I'm seeing a date of 586 BC ? that's a difference of 21 years ?



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    10 Jun '12 21:07
    Two separate sites both show 586BC ? What's 607BC all about ? Or is this a mistake?



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