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A very liberating idea

A very liberating idea

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Gravity is just a force that stops those who would like to fly without help from doing so. I think you have a point; however, gravity is the force that knocks down the dominoes by making them fall.

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@fmf said
"There is something I recognise about religion that we evangelical atheists haven’t really grappled with yet, which is that it gives people a chance to surrender. What religion says to you, essentially, is: you’re not in control. Now, that’s a very liberating idea." - Brian Eno

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Evangelical- 1 : of, relating to, or being in agreement with the Christian gospel especially as it is presented in the four Gospels.

"Evangelical atheists?"

Such abject ignoramusism.

Not worth the time of day.

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Yes daddy.

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@josephw said
"Evangelical atheists?"
Brian Eno's turn of phrase is perhaps best defined by the Urban Dictionary:

An Evangelical Atheist is a person that is an atheist and tries to spread atheism amongst theists. It is derived from Evangelism, meaning "Spreading Good News" as practised by Christianity. Due to the rise of the Conservative Christain movement in the United States of America and the increase of humanistic thought, along with the increased blending other many different religions, Atheism has become more and more popular. Evangelical atheist usually seeks to "convert" borderline theists, often by engagaing in debate with fundamentalists.


@fmf said
Brian Eno's turn of phrase is perhaps best defined by the Urban Dictionary:

An Evangelical Atheist is a person that is an atheist and tries to spread atheism amongst theists. It is derived from Evangelism, meaning "Spreading Good News" as practised by Christianity. Due to the rise of the Conservative Christain movement in the United States of America and the increase of hum ...[text shortened]... sually seeks to "convert" borderline theists, often by engagaing in debate with fundamentalists.
Blah blah blah

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@josephw said
"Evangelical atheists?"
Another definition from the Urban Dictionary:

Evangelical Atheist: An atheist that combats religion as zealously as evangelicals thrust their religious beliefs on others. I was talking to a co-worker about an episode of Mysteries of the Bible on National Geographic and this Evangelical Atheist jumped into our conversation telling us that we believed in a Spaghetti Monster God.

Another:

An evangelical atheist is one who not only believes there is no god or other supreme being, but is obsessed with convincing everyone around them to become an atheist too, usually through hard-line intolerance (the kind they accuse other religions of). When cornered they usually try to put down their opponent's religion and bash them for 'blind faith', not realizing that their belief that there is no god is no more or less valid or provable than the other guy's belief that there is one.


@josephw said
Blah blah blah
You didn't seem to understand who Brian Eno was referring to. And... what advice he was giving to them.

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@fmf said
Another definition from the Urban Dictionary:

Evangelical Atheist: An atheist that combats religion as zealously as evangelicals thrust their religious beliefs on others. I was talking to a co-worker about an episode of Mysteries of the Bible on National Geographic and this Evangelical Atheist jumped into our conversation telling us that we believed in a Spaghetti Monster G ...[text shortened]... re is no god is no more or less valid or provable than the other guy's belief that there is one.
It's an illusion.

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@josephw said
It's an illusion.
You are mistaken. There are atheists who can be said to "combat religion as zealously as evangelicals thrust their religious beliefs on others". Brian Eno is referring to them.


@fmf said
You are mistaken. There are atheists who can be said to "combat religion as zealously as evangelicals thrust their religious beliefs on others". Brian Eno is referring to them.
I don't care. It's a crock of crap.

Atheists have nothing to prove.

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@josephw said
I don't care. It's a crock of crap.

Atheists have nothing to prove.
Do you think Brian Eno's advice to fellow atheists is a valid observation?

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@fmf said
Do you think Brian Eno's advice to fellow atheists is a valid observation?
Like the blind leading the blind.


@josephw said
Like the blind leading the blind.
Merely offering a hackneyed cliche isn't much of a contribution to the discussion of your part.