1. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    12 Jun '16 07:26
    I have seen quite a few people on these threads make the claim "There is no absolute truth".

    But the statement can only be true for everyone if it is a statement of absolute truth.
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    12 Jun '16 07:30
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    I have seen quite a few people on these threads make the claim "There is no absolute truth".

    But the statement can only be true for everyone if it is a statement of absolute truth.
    It is possibly true that this thread was absolutely unnecessary.
  3. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    12 Jun '16 07:36
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    It is possibly true that this thread was absolutely unnecessary.
    So two contradictory beliefs can be true at the same time?
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    12 Jun '16 07:41
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    So two contradictory beliefs can be true at the same time?
    Yes; for example you are Fetchmyjunk and also the same personwho used to post here under a different username. 😉
  5. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    12 Jun '16 07:501 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Yes; for example you are Fetchmyjunk and also the same personwho used to post here under a different username. 😉
    So which two beliefs are contradictory? I only see one belief, i.e. that Fetchmyjunk and a previous username were used by the same person. 😛 And that belief is either true or false.
  6. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    12 Jun '16 09:03
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    It is possibly true that this thread was absolutely unnecessary.
    And it is possibly true that you cannot defend your claim that there is no absolute truth.
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    12 Jun '16 09:19
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    And it is possibly true that you cannot defend your claim that there is no absolute truth.
    Not sir when you are my opponent.

    😏
  8. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    12 Jun '16 09:32
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Not sir when you are my opponent.

    😏
    You are faring well so far.
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    12 Jun '16 10:41
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    It is possibly true that this thread was absolutely unnecessary.
    Its necessary for those people who wish not to be hoodwinked by relativists making self contradictory statements.
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    12 Jun '16 11:08
    Originally posted by sonship
    Its necessary for those people who wish not to be hoodwinked by relativists making self contradictory statements.
    I understand your concern, bearing in mind you propensity for being hoodwinked.
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    12 Jun '16 11:15
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    I understand your concern, bearing in mind you propensity for being hoodwinked.
    If truth is relative you have no actual reason for concern.
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    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    I understand your concern, bearing in mind you propensity for being hoodwinked.
    As a Chrisitan, I realize that I could be deceived. I acknowledge that.
    As a Christian, I realize that the whole WORLD could be deceived.

    As a follower of Jesus Christ, of necessity I admit that one much smarter and much cleverer than I could in fact deceive me.

    " The great dragon ... the ancient serpent, he who is called the Devil and Satan, he who deceives the whole inhabited earth ... " (Rev. 12:9)


    As a Christian I admit that against such a hoodwinker I do not have a chance. I better stay close to the Son of God who alone defeated this deceiver. In Christ he had nothing - no ground to deceive.

    Here just before Jesus was crucified He truthfully told His disciples that the Devil had no ground, no vantage point, and no area of control anywhere in Christ's whole being.

    " I will no longer speak much with you for the ruler of the world is coming, and in Me he has nothing. " (John 14:30)


    Though this deceiver does have some ground of deceptive attack on me against which I am helpless, I know of One in Whom he had and has absolutely NOTHING - no ground and no inward advantage.
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    12 Jun '16 13:11
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    If truth is relative you have no actual reason for concern.
    Your truth is 'relative' to actual truth. Unfortunately it is a distant cousin.

    And where did i speak of my concern?
  14. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    12 Jun '16 13:27
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Your truth is 'relative' to actual truth. Unfortunately it is a distant cousin.

    And where did i speak of my concern?
    Your truth is 'relative' to actual truth. Unfortunately it is a distant cousin.

    Aren't actual truth and absolute truth one and the same thing? If not, what's the difference?
  15. SubscriberGhost of a Duke
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    12 Jun '16 14:28
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    [b]Your truth is 'relative' to actual truth. Unfortunately it is a distant cousin.

    Aren't actual truth and absolute truth one and the same thing? If not, what's the difference?[/b]
    'Actual' as in 'existing now; current.'

    A current truth can be modified if better evidence comes to light. This can not be said of absolute truth, hence its fallacy.
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