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Originally posted by KellyJay
Every excuse will be fully examined, since every word spoken we will given an account for
nothing will be hidden.
Every wish will be fulfilled and every fantasy realised.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Absolute for me means it is permanent and does not require opinion or circumstances to
be just right. That may not be how the rest of creation views it, but it is how I do. Reality
or circumstances can change for anything else, opinions can change for anything else,
and with it how things are viewed and or defined. Absolute will not require anything else
for it to be who or what it is.
Yet the French had an absolute monarchy, the French now have a president. Although he is technically the Prince of Andorra. But that is no longer absolute, nor is it permanent.


Originally posted by sonship
Absolute truth is a "party" we are invited to.
We should have a thread on lame conversion cliches for evangelicals.


Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
We should have a thread on lame conversion cliches for evangelicals.
"Judged is judged".

"If yer gonna be tortured, then, yer gonna be tortured"

"People who don't believe in Christ are like holocaust deniers"

Not cliches, exactly, I suppose. But they are vacuous.


Originally posted by FMF
"Judged is judged".

"If yer gonna be tortured, then, yer gonna be tortured"

"People who don't believe in Christ are like holocaust deniers"

Not cliches, exactly, I suppose. But they are vacuous.
adjective
1.
without contents; empty:
the vacuous air.
2.
lacking in ideas or intelligence:
a vacuous mind.
3.
expressing or characterized by a lack of ideas or intelligence; inane; stupid:
a vacuous book.
4.
purposeless; idle:
a vacuous way of life.


Kind of like this:

This box could have been used to add information about myself that I might have liked to share with other Red Hot Pawn members but it hasn't because I didn't.


Originally posted by sonship
Kind of like this:

This box could have been used to add information about myself that I might have liked to share with other Red Hot Pawn members but it hasn't because I didn't.
None of the things in the post of mine that you are responding to was an attempt at levity, though, so I am not sure why you think the comparison is justified.

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Originally posted by DeepThought
Yet the French had an absolute monarchy, the French now have a president. Although he is technically the Prince of Andorra. But that is no longer absolute, nor is it permanent.
Than your 'absolute monarchy' didn't mean the diff I gave.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Than your 'absolute monarchy' didn't mean the diff I gave.
I had a quick look back at your earlier post. I double checked in the dictionary and the closest to your definition is "A value or principle which is regarded as universally valid or which may be viewed without relation to other things.". There is an implication of changelessness here (1 + 1 = 2, and always will, that is an absolute). "All men are mortal" is an absolute truth, the medical profession are pretty good, but they're not that good and even if they could prevent aging we'd die of something in the end. The words "absolute truth" may refer to precision. "The sky is blue" captures something about nature but it's hardly "absolute truth" because the sky is sometimes overcast. Most of the time when someone says "absolute true" the word "absolute" is just there for emphasis. So yes, absolute can imply unchanging, but it's not the only, or even the most important, meaning and I don't think it fits the context of the discussion between vistesd and fetchmyjunk. I don't think the words "absolute reality" imply that reality is unchanging.

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Originally posted by DeepThought
I had a quick look back at your earlier post. I double checked in the dictionary and the closest to your definition is "A value or principle which is regarded as universally valid or which may be viewed without relation to other things.". There is an implication of changelessness here (1 + 1 = 2, and always will, that is an absolute). "All men are mor ...[text shortened]... d and fetchmyjunk. I don't think the words "absolute reality" imply that reality is unchanging.
Well heck if it doesn't fit just their conversation!

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Originally posted by FMF
"Judged is judged".

"If yer gonna be tortured, then, yer gonna be tortured"

"People who don't believe in Christ are like holocaust deniers"

Not cliches, exactly, I suppose. But they are vacuous.
If you died tonight, where would you go?
You better get right with god ... or get left!


Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
If you died tonight, where would you go?
You better get right with god ... or get left!
"There's a God shaped hole in the heart of ever person."


Originally posted by FMF
"There's a God shaped hole in the heart of ever person."
It never rains but it pours.

We are all the same with the lights out.

It's an ill wind that blows no good.

Look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves.

Look left, right and left again and you will be safe crossing the road. (In the UK. Maybe Americans do it the other way!)


Originally posted by finnegan
Look left, right and left again and you will be safe crossing the road. (In the UK. Maybe Americans do it the other way!)
People with smart phones, the world over, may do it neither the UK way nor the American way.


Originally posted by FMF
"There's a God shaped hole in the heart of ever person."
How could I forget - the homo-erotic class.

"Real Men Love Jesus"
"Get on your knees and fight like a man"

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I have seen quite a few people on these threads make the claim "There is no absolute truth".

But the statement can only be true for everyone if it is a statement of absolute truth.
Is that like a church claiming to be a Non-Denominational church?