Originally posted by wolfgang59The Islamic version is wrong, from a bad translation.
Lots of anti-Islamic posts talk about the degradation of women in Islam. I was interested to discover that the Quran blames both Adam and Eve for eating the forbidden fruit rather than placing the burden of original sin on women only as in the biblical version.
Thoughts?
Originally posted by wolfgang59The Quran, but translation was probably not the correct term, a bad "copy" is more appropriate. The issue not being translation from language to language but rather the accuracy of hand copies made (clerical errors, etc.)
A bad translation of what?
Originally posted by CLL53So maybe the transcription error did arise or maybe not but is it still the case that the Qu'ran as it is contains this account in which Eve is not assigned the blame?
The Quran, but translation was probably not the correct term, a bad "copy" is more appropriate. The issue not being translation from language to language but rather the accuracy of hand copies made (clerical errors, etc.)
Originally posted by CLL53Unlike the bible the Qu'ran is still used in its original language.
The Quran, but translation was probably not the correct term, a bad "copy" is more appropriate. The issue not being translation from language to language but rather the accuracy of hand copies made (clerical errors, etc.)
No translation therefore no translation errors.
If "typos" had been made wouldn't we have a number of different Qu'rans?
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Originally posted by wolfgang59The bible doesn't blame Eve for the fall of man, it blames Adam. Over and over, you'll find the words "Adam's sin", or "from one man's sin (Adam's), death entered the world", as far as the "Original Sin" is concerned.
Lots of anti-Islamic posts talk about the degradation of women in Islam. I was interested to discover that the Quran blames both Adam and Eve for eating the forbidden fruit rather than placing the burden of original sin on women only as in the biblical version.
Thoughts?
The Bible does say Eve was "Deceieved", but not Adam; this seems to indicate that the Bible believed Adam knew better; thus, Adam is the one held in the wrong.
Thus, the point in the original post of this thread doesn't really lend to the thought the Koran any more respectful to women, compared to the Bible. Not that I endorse the bible or it's bigoted views.
Originally posted by vivifyI don't recall any bigoted views promoted by the Holy Bible. What exactly are you talking about? Can you define what you mean by a bigoted view and were this bigoted view is endorsed in the Holy Bible?
The bible doesn't blame Eve for the fall of man, it blames Adam. Over and over, you'll find the words "Adam's sin", or "from one man's sin (Adam's), death entered the world", as far as the "Original Sin" is concerned.
The Bible does say Eve was "Deceieved", but not Adam; this seems to indicate that the Bible believed Adam knew better; thus, Adam is the ...[text shortened]... omen, compared to the Bible. Not that I endorse the bible or it's bigoted views.
Originally posted by RJHindsYou don't recall, or more likely conveniently forget, the passage that goes, a man is worth 50 shekels, a woman 35 shekels? Seems pretty bigoted to me. It's right there in black and white in YOUR bible.
I don't recall any bigoted views promoted by the Holy Bible. What exactly are you talking about? Can you define what you mean by a bigoted view and were this bigoted view is endorsed in the Holy Bible?
Eve was deceived, as in, she was inferior so didn't know any better, but Adam the great on the other hand was the superior one so he takes the rap.
Originally posted by sonhouseYou misunderdtsnd everything in the Holy Bible. You need to read the whole Bible, then get a Believer's Bible Commentary and go over it again with that.
You don't recall, or more likely conveniently forget, the passage that goes, a man is worth 50 shekels, a woman 35 shekels? Seems pretty bigoted to me. It's right there in black and white in YOUR bible.
Eve was deceived, as in, she was inferior so didn't know any better, but Adam the great on the other hand was the superior one so he takes the rap.
Then with a little prayer and reflections maybe you will see the light.