Age of the universe even more accurately:

Originally posted by sonhouse
Are you new to science or something?
It's out 160,000 years which is an accuracy of one part in 28,000 and you are BITCHING that it is what, not within 1 microsecond or some such rot?

Take a look at our environment in the Universe, our local stuff like the Milky way. We have ONE perspective and have to deduce everything from our one little place in the ...[text shortened]... ines older than 6000 years.


RJ is so thick headed he can't see the forest for the trees.

Many people that are now in the field of science believe the Grand Canyon was a result of Noah's flood. I have presented video evidence of this already so the ignorant can learn, if they are interested. Apparently, you are one of those that willingly remains ignorant as the apostle Peter mentioned in 2 Peter 3. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
Many people that are now in the field of science believe the Grand Canyon was a result of Noah's flood. I have presented video evidence of this already so the ignorant can learn, if they are interested. Apparently, you are one of those that willingly remains ignorant as the apostle Peter mentioned in 2 Peter 3. 😏

So, we talked about that gaff before. Why was there only ONE Grand Canyon if the entire area was flooded with what, miles high deep water? There would have been hundreds of Grand Canyons all in that same general area.

Besides the photo evidence, photo's taken almost 150 years ago show the Canyon to be substantially the same as it is now. The thing about that is, according to your daft fantasy, if the Earth were only 6K years old, 150 years would clock in at 1/40th of the age of the entire Earth and no great change noted. However, there is solid evidence the GC gets a few feet deeper at a rate the shows the GC to be at least 5 million years old. They know the average cutting rate of the Colorado river and only in blind minds like yours can you not see it to be millions of years old.

It works out to be roughly 1 foot per 1000 years. So 6,000 years ago, only about 6 feet higher. In 150 years, the cut would be maximum 2 inches deeper.
It could not have happened in one big deluge because there would have been hundreds of them just like the GC.

Try again, this time with something you can actually prove, Mr blind.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So, we talked about that gaff before. Why was there only ONE Grand Canyon if the entire area was flooded with what, miles high deep water? There would have been hundreds of Grand Canyons all in that same general area.

Besides the photo evidence, photo's taken almost 150 years ago show the Canyon to be substantially the same as it is now. The thing about ...[text shortened]... them just like the GC.

Try again, this time with something you can actually prove, Mr blind.

There are other deep canyons in other parts of the world. Wikipedia says:

The Grand Canyon of northern Arizona with an average depth of one mile and a volume of 4.17 trillion cubic metres, is one of the world's largest canyons, sometimes referred to as one of the world's seven natural wonders. The second largest canyon, and the largest in Africa, is the Fish River Canyon in Namibia.

The Yarlung Tsangpo Grand Canyon (or Tsangpo Canyon), along the Yarlung Tsangpo River in Tibet, is regarded by some as the deepest canyon in the world at 5,500 m (18,000 ft), and is slightly longer than Grand Canyon. The Kali Gandaki Gorge in midwest Nepal is seen by others to be the deepest canyon, with a 6400 m (21,000 ft) difference between the level of the river and the peaks surrounding it.

Copper Canyon in Chihuahua, Mexico is deeper and longer than the Grand Canyon.

These canyons plus the others were probably compiled as mud and carved out by the receding waters of Noah's flood. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
There are other deep canyons in other parts of the world. Wikipedia says:

The Grand Canyon of northern Arizona with an average depth of one mile and a volume of 4.17 trillion cubic metres, is one of the world's largest canyons, sometimes referred to as one of the world's seven natural wonders. The second largest canyon, and the largest in Africa, is the ...[text shortened]... hers were probably compiled as mud and carved out by the receding waters of Noah's flood. 😏

I said there would be hundreds of Grand Canyons RIGHT NEXT to GC, not a handful around the world.

Originally posted by sonhouse
I said there would be hundreds of Grand Canyons RIGHT NEXT to GC, not a handful around the world.

I don't know why you say there must be hundreds of canyons right next to the Grand Canyon. If that were so then Arizona would be nothing but canyons. The Grand Canyon is so big, it does not leave room for hundreds of canyons in Arizona. But Arizona does have many other canyons and there are canyons in the neighboring states as well. Here are some of Arizona's canyons:

Antelope Canyon, Canyon De Chelly, Canyon X, Glen Canyon, Oak Creek Canyon, Ramsey Canyon, Ysegi Canyon, and Walnut Canyon.

You can find others listed here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Canyons_and_gorges_of_Arizona

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
wow, we agree on something, who would have thought. 🙂

I know 🙂



Manny

There are issues with Radiometric dating because the assumption of rates and contamination of the samples. Also assumptions on the rate in which C14 was being created. In a perfect vacuum fine but the world is not that way. C14 being made by bombardment from cosmic rays and C14 is and should be rare.





Manny

Originally posted by RJHinds
There are other deep canyons in other parts of the world. Wikipedia says:

The Grand Canyon of northern Arizona with an average depth of one mile and a volume of 4.17 trillion cubic metres, is one of the world's largest canyons, sometimes referred to as one of the world's seven natural wonders. The second largest canyon, and the largest in Africa, is the ...[text shortened]... hers were probably compiled as mud and carved out by the receding waters of Noah's flood. 😏

For the G.C. to have been created by "The Common explanation" the Colorado river would have to had gone up stream and water does not flow upstream
A cataclysmic event fits what we see better


Manny

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/GrandCanyon2.html

I know this is biased to the creationist view but some of the points have validity



Manny

Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't know why you say there must be hundreds of canyons right next to the Grand Canyon. If that were so then Arizona would be nothing but canyons. The Grand Canyon is so big, it does not leave room for hundreds of canyons in Arizona. But Arizona does have many other canyons and there are canyons in the neighboring states as well. Here are some of Ariz ...[text shortened]... ind others listed here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Canyons_and_gorges_of_Arizona

A receding flood like what you think you know about where the entire Earth was covered with water would have created many more canyons than the 8 you mentioned.

That flood myth just doesn't hold water as it were🙂

Originally posted by menace71
There are issues with Radiometric dating because the assumption of rates and contamination of the samples. Also assumptions on the rate in which C14 was being created. In a perfect vacuum fine but the world is not that way. C14 being made by bombardment from cosmic rays and C14 is and should be rare.





Manny

Your doubts about radiometric dating are almost entirely unfounded. 'Assumptions' and variations due to isotope formation &c. are taken into account in the calibration of raw data. Certainly there are some few dates (a vanishingly small proportion) which will be erroneous due to unforeseen circumstances, but in no way do these occur in such numbers as to put the methods into question.

Originally posted by sonhouse
A receding flood like what you think you know about where the entire Earth was covered with water would have created many more canyons than the 8 you mentioned.

That flood myth just doesn't hold water as it were🙂

You numbnuts! I didn't even mention all the canyons that are in Arizona. I don't know the names of all of them. That is why I gave you the reference link and that link does not list all of them. Who knows how many canyons and gorges there are around the world? Did you forget that Noah's flood covered the whole Earth? 😏