Originally posted by Rutherford7Mar1911 Well, from a Christian ideology you have forever after you die. One=this life, infinity= the life to come. What fraction of infinity is one?
Odd then that sonship in the other thread claimed that time could not be infinite. Seems you don't all agree on the theology.
I have also found it impossible to get any straight answer from a theist as to what they mean by 'life to come' ie what is the soul.
An Atheist, like yourself, does not believe in the infinity therefore the one is greater. I don't get your logic here. Are you saying that to me, an ant is greater than God because I don't believe God exists? Greater in what sense?
Different calculators=different results. The word 'greater' is somewhat ambiguous as to what it is measuring, so yes, different measuring scales different results, I am less sure about calculators.
Originally posted by twhitehead Odd then that sonship in the other thread claimed that time could not be infinite. Seems you don't all agree on the theology.
I have also found it impossible to get any straight answer from a theist as to what they mean by 'life to come' ie what is the soul.
An Atheist, like yourself, does not believe in the infinity therefore the one is greater.[/ , so yes, different measuring scales different results, I am less sure about calculators.
Here's your straight answer on the 'life that is to come.'
Technically, that life will be either life eternal or death eternal.
For the believer, it is the former whereas for the unbeliever, it is the latter.
One is communing with God forever.
The other is allegorically gnashing his teeth at the knowledge of his own recalcitrance, the realization that he closed the door forever with him on the outside.
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby [b]Alert: "God Needs Your Help!"
He Needs Your Help Finding Trees for the Spotted Owls to Hoot and Perch; Coaxing Young Trees to Take Root in Safe Habitats on Planet Earth; Your Money in Locating Sources of Energy to Burn; Keeping the Atmosphere Fit to Breathe, Ad Infinitium, Ad Nauseam, et al. Please do your part...[/b]
Uh, I think this is backwards. We need God's help. ๐
Those with an IQ Above Room Temperature, CB, and of sound body and mind who have taken the decision to believe that Christianity falls short of their belief system expectations. Two family members and seven longtime friends (all who have listened thoughtfully to the Claims of Christ and yet have remained entrenched in that decision). God, Himself, is/always has been too much of a gentlemen to ever coerce their volitional free will; how could I possibly do less and still reflect the Mind of Christ in my contact with these people whom I continue to love dearly?
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Those with an IQ Above Room Temperature, CB, and of sound body and mind who have taken the decision to believe that Christianity falls short of their belief system expectations. Two family members and seven longtime friends (all who have listened thoughtfully to the Claims of Christ and yet have remained entrenched in that decision). God, Himself, is/al ...[text shortened]... ll reflect the Mind of Christ in my contact with these people whom I continue to love dearly?
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Continue to pray for them and be an example as you are already doing, Love them.
Originally posted by Soothfast Celsius or Fahrenheit?
We certainly aren't a Kelvin crowd. ๐
"We Report, You Decide."
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Originally posted by Suzianne ^This.
And for their sake, leave the lines of communication open.
Assure them that they can always come talk with you about it.
Agreed, Jesus was friendly with Publicans and sinners, BTW, I don't think it means Re"Publicans...LOL....But seriously, my wife and I have an estranged daughter that we continued to pray for over the years. She is finally, in the last year begun to open up. We recently had dinner with her and her husband, but she would not speak to us for the last 20 or so years. I won't get in to specifics but we always kept the lines of communication open. At least from our end. She was young and strong willed at the time, and I think she is beginning to wise up to that.