16 Sep 19
@whodey saidRemind me who the “guiltless” are please?
Would let murderers live, thieves not to repay what they have stolen, and suffering in general that comes from sin to continue to harm those who are guiltless forevermore.
Who here agrees?
@divegeester saidThe unborn we throw in dumpsters for starters.
Remind me who the “guiltless” are please?
16 Sep 19
@philokalia saidOf course.
Eternity is the operative word here, right.
Christianity affirms cosmic justice.
So if you were God, what would you do with Hitler?
16 Sep 19
@philokalia saidNext!
He'd go to hell. He willfully slaughtered millions of unarmed civilians as part of a policy which he was the chief architect of.
Anyone disagree?
17 Sep 19
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@whodey saidLet's see. Many Christians believe that all of their sins, past, present and future, has been "repaid" by God via Jesus. As such they themselves do not have to "repay" anything. And unless they cease to sin, they will "continue to harm those who are guiltless". And they believe that they will receive eternal life / live in the Kingdom regardless.
Would let murderers live, thieves not to repay what they have stolen, and suffering in general that comes from sin to continue to harm those who are guiltless forevermore.
Who here agrees?
What point do you think you've made here?
17 Sep 19
@thinkofone saidThose that repent have turned from those sins, and Christ has paid for them.
Let's see. Christians believe that all of their sins, past, present and future, has been "repaid" by God via Jesus. As such they themselves do not have to "repay" anything. And unless they cease to sin, they will "continue to harm those who are guiltless".
What point do you think you've made here?
However, if you repent in jail after murdering someone, you still should get the death penalty and let God sort things out in the next life.
@whodey saidLike usual you haven't thought any of this through.
Those that repent have turned from those sins, and Christ has paid for them.
However, if you repent in jail after murdering someone, you still should get the death penalty and let God sort things out in the next life.
What of "thieves not to repay what they have stolen"?
How do the following beliefs describe a "just God"?
Many Christians believe that all of their sins, past, present and future, has been "repaid" by God via Jesus. As such they themselves do not have to "repay" anything. And unless they cease to sin, they will "continue to harm those who are guiltless". And they believe that they will receive eternal life / live in the Kingdom regardless.
However, if you repent in jail after murdering someone, you still should get the death penalty and let God sort things out in the next life.
So much for "Judge not, that ye be not judged",
17 Sep 19
@thinkofone saidNaturally, the thief who died with Jesus was unable to give back what he had stolen.
Like usual you haven't thought any of this through.
What of "thieves not to repay what they have stolen"?
How do the following beliefs describe a "just God"?
[quote]Many Christians believe that all of their sins, past, present and future, has been "repaid" by God via Jesus. As such they themselves do not have to "repay" anything. And unless they cease to sin, they ...[text shortened]... and let God sort things out in the next life.[/b]
So much for "Judge not, that ye be not judged",
The issue is repentance, turning away from sin and wanting to make restitution.
17 Sep 19
@fmf saidYou are free to assess the motives of Hitler and the God of the Bible based upon what you know about both.
Encumbered as you are with your ideology, how can you be sure that Hitler wasn't doing what your God figure wanted him to do as an act of vengeance against the Jews and other targets of divine wrath?
Is this your conclusion? After all, Hitler publically claimed to be a Christian.