And the foolish say there is no God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html

So this stuff just happened? Right. lol.
So much for man to learn and some we may never know.

@galveston75 said
https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html

So this stuff just happened? Right. lol.
So much for man to learn and some we may never know.

What stuff? (Lol)




Edit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@divegeester

The 4 fundamental forces....

@galveston75 said
The 4 fundamental forces....

Simply calling people ~ i.e. those who don't ascribe the "forces" you mention to a supernatural being ~ calling them "foolish" is not a very strong debating point.

@galveston75 said
@divegeester

The 4 fundamental forces....

I see, so your point here is that scientists are foolish because they have identified four fundamental forces, but you, a member of the Jehovah’s Witness cult, are wise.

Is that it?

@galveston75 said
So this stuff just happened?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@galveston75 said
https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html

So this stuff just happened? Right. lol.
So much for man to learn and some we may never know.

What has the link got to do with your thesis?

@galveston75 said
https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html

So this stuff just happened? Right. lol.
So much for man to learn and some we may never know.

It's not entirely clear what your point is, as the other posters have noted, so I'll take a guess. I suspect your argument is something along the lines of: "Because these forces do everything we need for life to exist and this requires fine tuning of parameters there must be a God.". You do realize that this argument has been presented on this forum about a trillion times? You must also realize that it's another rehash of the God of the Gaps argument. Atheists are not convinced by it, and most theists aren't happy with the idea either.

@handyandy said
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(((((((((((((!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!))))))))))))

@deepthought said
It's not entirely clear what your point is, as the other posters have noted, so I'll take a guess. I suspect your argument is something along the lines of: "Because these forces do everything we need for life to exist and this requires fine tuning of parameters there must be a God.". You do realize that this argument has been presented on this forum about a trillion tim ...[text shortened]... aps argument. Atheists are not convinced by it, and most theists aren't happy with the idea either.

You think saying things are set up just right for life shows an argument from the perspective of God of the gaps? Actually, it is an argument from the standpoint of knowledge, not lack thereof. Humans who really have gaps are the ones that when someone is asked how did it all begin, offer nothing. If there can be nothing offered in justifying anything yet denouncing a first cause, that is a real gap, one without knowledge or justification.

@deepthought said
It's not entirely clear what your point is, as the other posters have noted, so I'll take a guess. I suspect your argument is something along the lines of: "Because these forces do everything we need for life to exist and this requires fine tuning of parameters there must be a God.". You do realize that this argument has been presented on this forum about a trillion tim ...[text shortened]... aps argument. Atheists are not convinced by it, and most theists aren't happy with the idea either.

This forum is chock full of self deluded people .
Creation fairy tales , flood fairy tales , and talking donkeys and snakes are real to them .

@kellyjay said
You think saying things are set up just right for life shows an argument from the perspective of God of the gaps? Actually, it is an argument from the standpoint of knowledge, not lack thereof. Humans who really have gaps are the ones that when someone is asked how did it all begin, offer nothing. If there can be nothing offered in justifying anything yet denouncing a first cause, that is a real gap, one without knowledge or justification.

And you , who has no proof , pontificates that it is YOUR god rather than any of the 3000 other gods who has done this .
How quaint .

@caissad4 said
This forum is chock full of self deluded people .
Creation fairy tales , flood fairy tales , and talking donkeys and snakes are real to them .

You don't give them enough credit.

It works the other way as well. For example, the moon landing was fake.

@caissad4 said
And you , who has no proof , pontificates that it is YOUR god rather than any of the 3000 other gods who has done this .
How quaint .

For someone who says you don’t know how anything got here, you make a lot of claims with nothing to backup your accretions.

@kellyjay said
For someone who says you don’t know how anything got here, you make a lot of claims with nothing to backup your accretions.

I make no claims .
You make unsubstantiated claims .
Wait, wait , I DO claim to not know .