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26 Apr 13
Originally posted by sonhouseJaynes?
Do Christians think everyone but Christians will go to hell? For instance, Hindu's, Buddhists, Jaynes, Scientologists, and Muslims, all destined for hell?
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Originally posted by sonhouseI suppose it depends upon whether or not their names will be recorded in the book of life at the last judgment.
Do Christians think everyone but Christians will go to hell? For instance, Hindu's, Buddhists, Jaynes, Scientologists, and Muslims, all destined for hell?
"And if anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15)
I do not know all the ways in which a person's name may be written in the book of life.
When Jesus was asked directly by His disciples how many would be saved, He tended to not directly answer the question. Rather He exhorted the disciples to themselves seek to enter into His kingdom.
"And some said to Him, Lord, are there only a few who are being saved?
And He said to them, Struggle to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to enter, yet will not be able." (Luke 13:23,24)
Jesus did not tickle our curiosity with statistics at all. He exhorts the questioner to enter in the narrow door of doing the will of God. That's what we need to know.
26 Apr 13
Originally posted by sonshipSo just as I thought. You think your god only wants sycophants to worship it forever and ever and if you don't agree with that..... What a bore.
I suppose it depends upon whether or not their names will be recorded in the book of life at the last judgment.
[b]"And if anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15)
I do not know all the ways in which a person's name may be written in the book of life.
When Jesus was asked direct ...[text shortened]... the question. Rather He exhorted the disciples to themselves seek to enter into His kingdom.[/b]
26 Apr 13
Originally posted by sonhouseYea, they get to hell expecting 70 virgins but end up with 70 middle aged nags. The kicker is that they have no access to guns or explosives. A true hell indeed.
Do Christians think everyone but Christians will go to hell? For instance, Hindu's, Buddhists, Jaynes, Scientologists, and Muslims, all destined for hell?
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So just as I thought. You think your god only wants sycophants to worship it forever and ever and if you don't agree with that..... What a bore.
That is because you are projecting your own lusts upon God assuming the worst in you is probably what God is about.
Many athiests are like this. They look at themselves and cannot believe a God is possible for they know how corrupted a fallen human being can be.
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Originally posted by sonshipare atheist more corrupted than christians? could you provide evidence?So just as I thought. You think your god only wants sycophants to worship it forever and ever and if you don't agree with that..... What a bore.
That is because you are projecting your own lusts upon God assuming the worst in you is probably what God is about.
Many athiests are like this. They look at themselves and cannot believe a God is possible for they know how corrupted a fallen human being can be.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieThe subject of atheism kind of puts me to sleep.
are atheist more corrupted than christians? could you provide evidence?
I think it gets way too much attention then it should.
Maybe someone else will answer you on that.
It is clear that to come forward to God you must believe that God is.
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Originally posted by sonshipif you must believe that god is regardless of anything else then you are the worst person to say if god exists or not.
The subject of atheism kind of puts me to sleep.
I think it gets way too much attention then it should.
Maybe someone else will answer you on that.
It is clear that to come forward to God you must believe that God is.
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26 Apr 13
Originally posted by stellspalfie
if you must believe that god is regardless of anything else then you are the worst person to say if god exists or not.
if you must believe that god is regardless of anything else then you are the worst person to say if god exists or not.
I don't understand you comment.
But to come forward to God you must believe that God is.
And that is not hard.
You have to exercise a part of your being that you are not use to exercising. That is a praying organ - your spirit.
You cannot touch God directly with your mind. You have to exercise something deeper in you called your human spirit in prayer.
Many people when they hear this jump to the conclusion that the human mind is useless. But I did not say the human mind is useless by any means. I said that the mind cannot touch God directly. To contact God you have to exercise something deeper in you which is exercised by prayer.
And this is like a salmon swimming against the current - upstream.
You have to exercise your praying spirit to touch God directly.
And you must use the blood of Christ to remove the obstacles of your guilty sins.
He forgives them and forgets them. You agree with God and He looks upon you as Christ as someone who has never sinned at all.
God wants followship and you should not tolerate that you do not have communion with the heavenly Father. It is abnormal and it renders you an incomplete human being.
You should not settle for this abnormal condition of not having close enjoyment of God.
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Originally posted by sonhouseI believe that only saved people will go to heaven. Only people going to heaven MUST have their names in the book of life.
Do Christians think everyone but Christians will go to hell? For instance, Hindu's, Buddhists, Jaynes, Scientologists, and Muslims, all destined for hell?
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Originally posted by sonshipI don't understand you comment.if you must believe that god is regardless of anything else then you are the worst person to say if god exists or not.
I don't understand you comment.
But to come forward to God you must believe that God is.
And that is not hard.
You have to exercise a part of your being that you are not use to exercising. That is a praying ...[text shortened]... ng.
You should not settle for this abnormal condition of not having close enjoyment of God.
ill try again - if the first step to god is to accept got. then you are making a decision that negate all reason. put that line of thinking into any other scenario and you see why.
if the first step to santa is to believe in santa then even as adults we would still believe in santa even though no presents arrive from him on christmas day.
the person who's first step is to to belive in santa is the worst person to say if santa exists or not.