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Originally posted by stellspalfieI think I understand you now. You associated Santa and his raindeers with Christmas and Jesus. So if Santa was not real, then Jesus must not be real either. The idea of Santa coming down the chimney to deliver toys was made up hundreds of years after Jesus and doesn't have anything to do with Him.
[b]I don't understand you comment.
ill try again - if the first step to god is to accept got. then you are making a decision that negate all reason. put that line of thinking into any other scenario and you see why.
if the first step to santa is to believe in santa then even as adults we would still believe in santa even though no presents arr ...[text shortened]... n who's first step is to to belive in santa is the worst person to say if santa exists or not.[/b]
In fact, December 25 was not even the birthday of Jesus as was explained in a link on another thread. So you must try to put these fairy tale story for kids aside and deal with the real issue of whether Jesus the Christ existed or not. You can research through Google, for there is a lot of info on Jesus. Of course, like any famous person, rumors and false information about him do arise.
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Originally posted by RJHindsno, stop playing the idiot jester for a second. just read what i wrote and dont add your own variables like jesus.
I think I understand you now. You associated Santa and his raindeers with Christmas and Jesus. So if Santa was not real, then Jesus must not be real either. The idea of Santa coming down the chimney to deliver toys was made up hundreds of years after Jesus and doesn't have anything to do with Him.
In fact, December 25 was not even the birthday of Jesus ...[text shortened]... on Jesus. Of course, like any famous person, rumors and false information about him do arise.
Originally posted by stellspalfieAll this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
no, stop playing the idiot jester for a second. just read what i wrote and dont add your own variables like jesus.
(2 Corinthians 5:18 NKJV)
Originally posted by KeplerI had hoped you would have a little more confidence in Christ's church than to assign my name to it. All I will say to hraven being empty is prepare yourself for the Lake of Fire.
Do all christians go to heaven or is there just one particular christian sect that gets to go? If it's the church of RJ Hinds heaven is going to be rather empty.
Originally posted by RJHindsThere are a multitude of churches. There are five in the village I live in alone, all with supposedly different versions of christianity. Do they all go to heaven or is it just one particular sect?
I had hoped you would have a little more confidence in Christ's church than to assign my name to it. All I will say to hraven being empty is prepare yourself for the Lake of Fire.
Originally posted by KeplerWe are not saved by a Christian group or by being a member of a denomination of a Christian church. We are saved by Christ because of our belief and faith in Him. As I pointed out in another thread, Jesus said that only those that do the will of God will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. So it is up to each of us to find out what the will of God is so that we can do it. I recommend reading and studying the Holy Bible as a guide book and not as a book of fairy tales.
There are a multitude of churches. There are five in the village I live in alone, all with supposedly different versions of christianity. Do they all go to heaven or is it just one particular sect?
Originally posted by RJHindsWell said brother
We are not saved by a Christian group or by being a member of a denomination of a Christian church. We are saved by Christ because of our belief and faith in Him. As I pointed out in another thread, Jesus said that only those that do the will of God will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. So it is up to each of us to find out what the will of God is so that ...[text shortened]... recommend reading and studying the Holy Bible as a guide book and not as a book of fairy tales.
Originally posted by KeplerAll true born again Christians will go to heaven because their name are in the book of life. Jesus saves, not a sect.
Do all christians go to heaven or is there just one particular christian sect that gets to go? If it's the church of RJ Hinds heaven is going to be rather empty.
Originally posted by stellspalfieClever figuration. Nothing more.
[b]I don't understand you comment.
ill try again - if the first step to god is to accept got. then you are making a decision that negate all reason. put that line of thinking into any other scenario and you see why.
if the first step to santa is to believe in santa then even as adults we would still believe in santa even though no presents arr ...[text shortened]... n who's first step is to to belive in santa is the worst person to say if santa exists or not.[/b]
First rule of Atheism - Always trust in how clever your own mind can be.
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Originally posted by sonship'Clever figuration. Nothing more. '
Clever figuration. Nothing more.
First rule of Atheism - Always trust in how clever your own mind can be.
its logic and its right, you dont need anymore than that,
' First rule of Atheism - Always trust in how clever your own mind can be.'
first rule of atheism - dont trust your own mind until you can prove your mind is correct.
Originally posted by stellspalfieHow clever. 😏
[b]'Clever figuration. Nothing more. '
its logic and its right, you dont need anymore than that,
' First rule of Atheism - Always trust in how clever your own mind can be.'
first rule of atheism - dont trust your own mind until you can prove your mind is correct.[/b]