26 May 22
@sonship saidIt’s 75 minutes of just a guy talking, very slowly I might add.
Here is a very practical fellowship about the world situation
prior to the great tribulation. Practical fellowship to Christians about rapture (selective).
Speaker Ron Kangus.
https://churchinmentor.org/audio/2022OhioConf_English_Msg2.mp3
No video.
Perhaps you could provide some bullet points?
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moments to respond here yet a full day to answer a simple question on Hebrews 13:8
26 May 22
@sonship saidNo. I don't think you understand what an ad populum fallacy is.
Grand ad populum fallacy.
You said: "Here is a very practical fellowship about the world situation".
...on a thread called "As it was in the Days of Noah".
So my question is:
Is the "very practical" idea for addressing the "world situation" along the lines of everybody in the world being exterminated in a flood except for one man ~ like Noah ~ and his family?
There is no logical fallacy in this observation-delivered-in-a-question.
There is only an on-topic post that you are either going to address or you are going to read it and scurry away.
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@kevin-eleven saidYou mean when embryos are more important than living, breathing 7-year-olds?
Relax into God and trust in God and accept the bad along with the good.
Even when Ted Cruz lifts up other people's bloody dead children to heaven in prayer.
When owning a method of dealing death to people is more important than keeping children safe? more important than feeding, clothing and housing people in need?
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted Ted Cruz back and said, "You can do more than pray. Faith without works is dead."
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Relax into God is excellent advice.
Are you saying one should not because of Ted Cruz?
Maybe you think "Relax" means passivity.
I take relaxing into God meaning open the heart and letting the living God fill your being - mind, emotion, and will.
@sonship saidEvery generation since Jesus walked the earth has believed it was the one which will see his return. I’ve lived for decades with people who allow this mindset to permeate their their entire consciousness and spend their days talking about “the end times” and how bad everything is. It’s not healthy.
Removed by me.
How can we face the times when they are like the days of Noah?
In my own family over the years it has led to ministries of spiritual disappointment and a sinking into conspiracies about covid a goodness knows what else.
To stand on a box and preach to a community using the words of Christ himself requires divine appointment and an empowerment of the spirit, you don’t have that I’m afraid sonship. In fact you don’t even have a mandate from your own church to preach.
You might do well to reflect on that lack of authority next time you want to come in here and assume to be a teacher. You’re not.
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Every generation since Jesus walked the earth has believed it was the one which will see his return.
So what?
What parted lovers don''t year to be together fully again?
I’ve lived for decades with people who allow this mindset to permeate their their entire consciousness and spend their days talking about “the end times” and how bad everything is. It’s not healthy.
The New Testament encourages us to have such an attitude of His return soon.
Jesus in His parables encouraged digence and watchful expectation.
Are you saying Christ was misleading to teach such an attitude of watchfulness?
It is also abundantly obviousx that the writers of the epistles like Peter and Paul, while hoping for a soon physical return of Christ, prepared their audiences for the long haul just in case.
Peter prepared his listeners for a responsible long-distance race:
"And I consider it right, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by reminder, Knowing that the putting off of my tabernacle is imminent, even as also our LOrd Jesus CHrost has made clear to me. Moreover I will also be deligent that you may be avble, after my exodus, to bring these things to mind at all times."
( 2 Pet. 1:13-15)
In my own family over the years it has led to ministries of spiritual disappointment and a sinking into conspiracies about covid a goodness knows what else.
FIrst and Seon Thessalonians were purposely written to prevent Christians from being discouraged or irresponsible in the long haul of approaching the end times.
There are always those who may react to talk of the close of the age with a groan - "Oh boy, here we go again."
To stand on a box and preach to a community using the words of Christ himself requires divine appointment and an empowerment of the spirit, you don’t have that I’m afraid sonship. In fact you don’t even have a mandate from your own church to preach.
So I can talk and teach about the Lord Jesus? Give me a break. (Or don't. It makes no difference.)
If you're more qualified, please expound this exhortation to us:
"Who are you to judge another's household servant? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will be madfe to stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand." (Rom. 14:4)
You might do well to reflect on that lack of authority next time you want to come in here and assume to be a teacher. You’re not.
Sniff.
(wipes tear from cheek)