Originally posted by vistesd Words constructed in the negative do tend to get a “negative” reaction. Take the word dis-illusioned—as if being illusioned were the more “positive” state of mind! And yet people talk all the time about the negative effect of being “disillusioned”, as if that’s a bad thing!
Realism and naturalism are already taken to refer to specific philosophic ...[text shortened]... nothing subtracted. I’m a thathatist! (And that, I am sure, there is no check-box for.)
Looks like it will have to be "Determinism" for me, inevitably.
Originally posted by leedsagain Atheism is a religious stance, I admit.
However I posted the original just to stir the pot a bit.
ha! you're the first atheist to admit that most atheists are as religious in their beliefs as the fanatics in the traditional religions. 😀
although for corectness i must admit that most atheists are not like that just like not all religious people insist god created the world in 7 days(or 6) and took a nap afterwards.
Originally posted by Zahlanzi ha! you're the first atheist to admit that most atheists are as religious in their beliefs as the fanatics in the traditional religions. 😀
How does his post say that? He said that he saw atheism as a religious stance, but he didn't say that most atheists are as religious in their beliefs as the fanatics in traditional religions.
I think you're reading more into his post than what was actually said.
Originally posted by PsychoPawn How does his post say that? He said that he saw atheism as a religious stance, but he didn't say that most atheists are as religious in their beliefs as the fanatics in traditional religions.
I think you're reading more into his post than what was actually said.
since he says that for some atheism is a religious stance the degree doesn't matter that much
Originally posted by PsychoPawn How does his post say that? He said that he saw atheism as a religious stance, but he didn't say that most atheists are as religious in their beliefs as the fanatics in traditional religions.
I think you're reading more into his post than what was actually said.
Originally posted by PsychoPawn The degree does matter.
He also said nothing about how many atheists hold that view, although you suggested he did.
huh? where did i say that?
and i don't think it has any point arguing about semantics with me. i said most. i said many. that doesn't imply a precise quantity, are you gonna argue that? would you perhaps be more comfortable with "slightly more or less than most"?
Originally posted by Zahlanzi huh? where did i say that?
and i don't think it has any point arguing about semantics with me. i said most. i said many. that doesn't imply a precise quantity, are you gonna argue that? would you perhaps be more comfortable with "slightly more or less than most"?
You said most! Read your post above which says:
ha! you're the first atheist to admit that most atheists are as religious in their beliefs as the fanatics in the traditional religions.
I added the bold to make sure you saw the term you actually used. Otherwise, that's copied and pasted from your post - verify it for yourself.
The term "most" specifically means more than 1/2 and frankly, he didn't even mention anything about how many atheists hold the view - you just extrapolated from that into most atheists believing that.
Originally posted by Zahlanzi ha! you're the first atheist to admit that most atheists are as religious in their beliefs as the fanatics in the traditional religions. 😀
although for corectness i must admit that most atheists are not like that just like not all religious people insist god created the world in 7 days(or 6) and took a nap afterwards.
Psychopawn is quite right. I said atheism is a religious stance, ie. it is a comment or opinion or attitude about / on religion. I did not say it was a religion. Your delight is miss-placed and you need to re-think if any atheists believe they are religious. Not many or most.
Atheist Club now exists
01 May '08 18:45
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