10 Nov '07 06:56>
Originally posted by vistesd1. The "us" is mankind.
1. Who is “us”? (In that “success” part.)
2. I thought that the “son” was in fact God incarnate himself. (You may not be a Trinitarian Christian, however.)
3. Mankind isn’t saved; only believers.
I’ve asked this question before (though maybe not of you): In your religion is the wages of sin death; or is the wages of sin eternal living misery?
2. I am a Trinitarian, however, I am merely distinguishing between the Father and Son as does the Bible.
3. It is true that only those who have faith are saved. Put another way, it is only those who agree wtih what God has to say or through their free will consent with what he has to say are saved. So what about what God has to say don't you agree with?
As for you last question, I will simply say "yes". The wages of sin is suffering and death. One can see the truth in such beliefs as those who "sin" suffer for their wrong doings. However, we get all up in arms thinking that such suffering could be eternal rather than merely temperal.