Originally posted by 667joe The fact that the bible does not mention bacteria, perhaps the earth's most prevalent and widespread form of life, is a proof that the bible was written by men and not god. Men certainly did not know about bacteria until a few hundred years ago. Had men known of bacteria in biblical times, bacteria would have been mentioned considering their relationship with diseases which were mentioned.
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If you read the pages closely enough you would see the bacteria Joe. 😛
Originally posted by 667joe The fact that the bible does not mention bacteria, perhaps the earth's most prevalent and widespread form of life, is a proof that the bible was written by men and not god.
He could have given us designs for cold fusion and computer CPUs. Maybe he did. The people of the day didn't have a clue what they were and just threw the pages away.
I think the flaw in your argument is that you claim to know what Gods motivations were when dictating the Bible. The motives you suggest are quite different from what most theists consider Gods motives to be.
Originally posted by RJHinds The authors of the Holy Bible may or may not have know about such things as atoms, electrons, protons, bacteria, or any of these things too small to see. These men were inspired by God to write what they did. Many times they did not understand what they were writing. God was not interested in them recording that kind of information, apparently. But God ha ...[text shortened]... us with the ability to search out and discover these wonders of God's creation. HalleluYah !!!
The authors of the Holy Bible may or may not have know about such things as ...
when I referred to the “author”, I was referring to the fictitious 'God' and NOT the people that wrote the book so you took totally the wrong meaning of what I said.
Why didn't 'God' tell them to write some really convincing proof of the truthfulness of the Bible by writing down something like:
“all solid things and even air and water are entirely made by things too small to be seen with thy unaided eye and are hard to split in two but one day man will split some in two and will invent a machine called thy holy transmission electron microscope ( TEM ) that will make images of these things for us to see.” ?
It is OBVIOUS that the Bible was never made to deliberately implied anything about atoms, bacteria etc.
A vague statement about “things unseen” could have meant just about anything at the time it was written.
Originally posted by twhitehead He could have given us designs for cold fusion and computer CPUs. Maybe he did. The people of the day didn't have a clue what they were and just threw the pages away.
I think the flaw in your argument is that you claim to know what Gods motivations were when dictating the Bible. The motives you suggest are quite different from what most theists consider Gods motives to be.
The more general point remains about why God has left no concrete evidence of his existence; the bacteria comment is a small example of this, but doesn't really reinforce the general argument for the reasons you point out here.
Originally posted by divegeester The more general point remains about why God has left no concrete evidence of his existence; the bacteria comment is a small example of this, but doesn't really reinforce the general argument for the reasons you point out here.
Of course those that claim that the Bible does contain concrete proof of Gods existence and authorship (via prophesy or otherwise) will find it a bit harder to defend against this sort of argument.
Another comment regarding God assisting us via providing information in the Bible is that God clearly does not wish to assist us, or is prevented from doing so for some reason. He could for example presumably designed the world without bacteria and virus' or at least caused the more dangerous ones to go extinct. After all, the largest cause of suffering and death is and always has been, disease.
Originally posted by twhitehead Of course those that claim that the Bible does contain concrete proof of Gods existence and authorship (via prophesy or otherwise) will find it a bit harder to defend against this sort of argument.
Another comment regarding God assisting us via providing information in the Bible is that God clearly does not wish to assist us, or is prevented from doing ...[text shortened]... o extinct. After all, the largest cause of suffering and death is and always has been, disease.
The list could lengthen. He could have designed a highly specialised worm that lives in the tear duct and painfully destroys the eye. He could have designed wasps that paralyse their victim and leave them to be eaten alive (and hence nicely fresh) once their young is born. He could have designed an over sized python that slowly crushes its victims before calmly ingesting them, not necessarily dead at the time but with all resistence broken. He could have realised that antibiotics kill his much loved bacteria and protected them by teaching them how to evolve into drug resistent strains. He could have designed plagues that wipe out a huge proportion of the population with no prospect of prevention or cure.
It's a mystery my dear boy. Oh the wonders of intelligent design.
Originally posted by divegeester The more general point remains about why God has left no concrete evidence of his existence; the bacteria comment is a small example of this, but doesn't really reinforce the general argument for the reasons you point out here.
What about the DNA code that is information that testifies of an intelligent Designer? What about the Shroud of Turin and the face cloth? What about the Holy Bible? What about the very existence of life?
Originally posted by finnegan The list could lengthen. He could have designed a highly specialised worm that lives in the tear duct and painfully destroys the eye. He could have designed wasps that paralyse their victim and leave them to be eaten alive (and hence nicely fresh) once their young is born. He could have designed an over sized python that slowly crushes its victims before ca ...[text shortened]... ct of prevention or cure.
It's a mystery my dear boy. Oh the wonders of intelligent design.
Oh, that stuff is all Adam and Eve's fault, not God's. Don't ask me how. 😛
Originally posted by finnegan The list could lengthen. He could have designed a highly specialised worm that lives in the tear duct and painfully destroys the eye. He could have designed wasps that paralyse their victim and leave them to be eaten alive (and hence nicely fresh) once their young is born. He could have designed an over sized python that slowly crushes its victims before ca ...[text shortened]... ct of prevention or cure.
It's a mystery my dear boy. Oh the wonders of intelligent design.
The Lord works in mysterious and wonderful ways. What an amazing and awesome God for He even gave man an imagination. HalleluYah !!!
There have been about 20 mass extinction episodes on earth, 5 of which caused about 50% of species during that time to become extinct. They are:
1. Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event about 65 million years ago. The most recent. It killed off about 75% of species.
2. Triassic-Jurassic extinction about 200 million years ago.
3. Permian-Triassic extinction event. It was earth's greatest extinction event and is often referred to as "The Great Dying". It happened about 250 million years ago.
4. Late Devonian Extinction event around 370 million years ago.
5. Ordovicean-Silurcan extinction event that happened about 400 million years ago.
All in all there are about 15 other lesser extinction events. Some speculate that about every 30 million years one occurs. If so, we are about due. It is really some interesting stuff. One would have to conclude that evolution is almost dependent upon such extinctions. In fact, during the End-Triassic extinction the dinasaur evolution was accelerated as their rival crurotarsans were eliminated. Then the opposite happened as the dinasaurs died off during the end-Cretaceous mass extinctions causing mammals to rule the world.
Originally posted by whodey Mass extinction facts.
98% of all documented species are now extinct.
There have been about 20 mass extinction episodes on earth, 5 of which caused about 50% of species during that time to become extinct. They are:
1. Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event about 65 million years ago. The most recent. It killed off about 75% of species.
2. Triassic ...[text shortened]... asaurs died off during the end-Cretaceous mass extinctions causing mammals to rule the world.
Your whole post is made up of one speculation after another. There is no truth in it. It is all lies.
Originally posted by RJHinds What about the DNA code that is information that testifies of an intelligent Designer? What about the Shroud of Turin and the face cloth? What about the Holy Bible? What about the very existence of life?
What is it with you and the Turin shroud; you really ought to let that one go, it's more fake than your chess rating.
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