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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesWell, I'll be honest, that was one of the more entertaining bits of Christian pop that I've heard. It was actually sung with real feeling; you can tell he really means it as the vocal part resolves into the chorus. The lyrics were somewhat clever. The pentatonic rock guitar solo was a little out of place. Overall, I'd rather listen to that one again than RBHILL's recommendation.
Oh my God, I'll have to listen to it now. That's just too much. I'll be back with my review soon.
I hope God answers his prayers, because it sure looks like the Devil is winning that battle.
Originally posted by kirksey957Right with you there Reverend.
Hymns are not the problem. It is doubtful that these two knuckleheads have ever heard Ein Fest Berg (A Mighty Fortress) played on an organ with 12,000 pipe and a highly trained choir singing. Perhaps I'm a snob, but there is a real majesty and reverence to that.
I'm an atheist of course, but I enjoy a good hymn (don't mind a few hers either.)
Originally posted by scottishinnzPeople tend to over look the flaws in something if they really want to see the good.(what they perceive as good).
Okay, here's the question.
Does being a Christian dull people's sense of taste, about what is good or bad?
OR
Do people who choose to follow Jebus have bad taste a priori, in which case, how can we trust their judgement in religious matters?
Thus Christians will say lots of good things about their pastors/priests/leaders and totally ignore the bad bits.
The same however applies with political parties / pop group fans etc etc. It is normal human behavior.
Many Christians believe everything in the Bible or anything their pastor says for similar reasons.
I doubt if they lack taste, I think they simply choose to pretend that something is better than it really is.
Another aspect is conditioning. If we listen to a really good song from the 80s we will in most cases not like it nearly as much as we did then. If you look at a hot car from the 80s you will probably say 'what junk'. So if Christians are not 'in the loop' and don't listen to modern pop or
watch tv etc then they probably end up with different tastes than the rest of us.
Originally posted by joneschrUnbelievable! Please take another Christian's word, that God does not hate a homosexual!
Oh, come on, when it comes to christian rock, this really wasn't so bad.
Try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ayrGuo4M8
The chorus line: "god hates a fag".
Yep......
How ironic is it that this video came from loveGodsway.com!
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Originally posted by jebryYes, you Christians really can't get your act together, can you?
Unbelievable! Please take another Christian's word, that God does not hate a homosexual!
How ironic is it that this video came from loveGodsway.com!
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And as for anyone thinking that is right, or good. Well, How could anyone ever trust such a person?!
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Originally posted by scottishinnzWell, thanks for the comment, but it is hardly constructive nor even true as applied to Christians as a whole.
Yes, you Christians really can't get your act together, can you?
And as for anyone thinking that is right, or good. Well, How could anyone ever trust such a person?!
Certainly there are some Christians that can't be trusted and/or can't get their act together, but we definitely have not cornered the market on either.
Originally posted by jebryThat's true, but, well, spend some more time on these forums and you'll see the reasons for my pessimism.
Well, thanks for the comment, but it is hardly constructive nor even true as applied to Christians as a whole.
Certainly there are some Christians that can't be trusted and/or can't get their act together, but we definitely have not cornered the market on either.
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowhehehe!
As for Chirstian music, you guys should read this article. I think Louis would espcially appreciate it.
http://www.weeklydig.com/music/articles/zero_tolerance_for_christ
That had me giggling like a schoolgirl all the way through! I never knew that moisen bint Amy Lee was a God botherer though. Ah well, just goes to show you never can tell.....
Originally posted by scottishinnzDid being Christian dull Bach's sense of musical taste?
Originally posted by RBHILL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpVsF4W8V2Y
I have always loved this worship song. The music video even makes it better. The best part is 3:30 into it, to 3:40.
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Originally posted by amannionI hear what you're saying. It goes both ways. Some people think they know God, but they don't. Others have had a genuine experience.
Yes I know that's your belief.
But its the sense of god being a part of you, being in you that I'm thinking about here. My question is probably really a rhetorical one - could this feeling be a part of ourselves rather than some sort of external manifestation?
I think its ourselves. I think we generate these feelings and through fear or confusion or simplicity or whatever we rationalise them as something external to us - a god.
I know this is an unsatisfactory answer, but it is the best I can do here in this forum without getting biblically technical.
I'll say this. If God is real then he defines the terms. God defines himself. God reveals himself. We cannot conjure up God. God comes to us, and we respond, one way or the other.
Rationalising a relationship with God is just what religion is all about. People have all kinds of delusions about God. They erect all manner of icons to make themselves feel good. All there is today is nature, mans works, and the word of God. At one time God used Isreal and commanded they build a temple and fill it with those things that were types of things that reflected spiritual truths. God is doing something different today. This time is called the "dispensation of the age of grace".
Originally posted by josephwYeah, I take your point.
I hear what you're saying. It goes both ways. Some people think they know God, but they don't. Others have had a genuine experience.
I know this is an unsatisfactory answer, but it is the best I can do here in this forum without getting biblically technical.
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I'm not so sure about the notion of a 'genuine experience' though. What is that? How do you know if you've had a genuine experience? It feels real and genuine to you - is that enough to call it genuine?
My understanding of recent brain experiments is that religious-like experiences can be indced through stimulation of particular regions of the brain.
Could this be the case with any such experience? Obviously I think it could, you probably won't.
I'm not denying such 'genuine experiences' are real - especially to the person having them - but it's in the explanation for that experience that I differ from you.