Originally posted by wolfgang59
Well that makes more sense than "setting a good example".
Well, hey, I thought it was sufficient at the time
But clearly I left quite a bit out, and I'm glad Conrau jumped in... I would have covered most of the points he did, but not nearly as well. Sorry about that.
It just seems to me (from the very little I know of the bible) that Jesus is described as two different people. There is the man of the people (shepherds at his birth, baptism by john, getting married (?) then there is the King/Son of God Jesus who has Kings attend his birth and is free from sin.
Jesus is far from the easiest person in the world to understand. He is unique, not only in person but in His nature(s), which He has one more of than the rest of us: there is Jesus-as-man and Jesus-as-God. And remember:
1) He is the champion of the poor and needy against the rich of this world (and not only those rich in money), and He is poor himself. And all this is by choice; He is under no external compulsion whatever.
2) He is completely without sin, including the sins of pride, hypocrisy, vanity, etc. What would you expect a life completely without fault or blame to look like when seen from the outside? A really completely good person would not necessarily stand out from the crowd.
3) As God, he is completely in charge of any siituation he finds himself in, and nothing can happen to him that He does not allow, and has not foreseen.
Were there two contrary views of Jesus ... perhaps there still are?
When you're on the outside looking in, with just the book to go by, it certainly can seem so. It did to me, before I had the Church as a guide--which is not really surprising, when you think about it, since the claim is that Jesus was fully God and at the same time fully man. That isn't something that you should expect to be able to understand on your own, without a little help
Not surprising that people who don't accept the claims reject the book.
This is just the broadest sort of answer, without a whole lot to back it up. Why God chose to come to earth exactly as He did is a far larger question than can be answered in a few dozen pages of text, never mind on a game forum. The subject is bigger than the world, so to speak, and many books have been written on practically every sentence I've written above, so that's about as well as I can do in the time that I have. Conrau K can certainly do better; his signal-to-noise ratio seems to be higher than mine. Maybe he'll jump in here again