@pb1022 saidI did not refuse. I take full responsibility for what I believed when I was a Christian. I take full responsibility for whatever I believed during the five-year process as my faith slipped away. I take full responsibility for what I believe now. I do not need to be absolved of anything.
I wouldn’t go anywhere because FMF would have acknowledged he bears some responsibility for his loss of faith - something he heretofore has refused to do.
@fmf saidWhat you say here is different from saying you chose to abandon Christianity and take responsibility for that decision.
I did not refuse. I take full responsibility for what I believed when I was a Christian. I take full responsibility for whatever I believed during the five-year process as my faith slipped away. I take full responsibility for what I believe now. I do not need to be absolved of anything.
You previously said your faith “happened to” you and presumably (by that logic) your lack of faith “happened to” you as well.
You, by that statement, seem to feel you have no role in keeping your faith - faith, to you it seems, is like a breeze that blows one way and blows another.
That’s why I asked - and you refused to answer - whether you made any choices regarding how much to cultivate and grow in your relationship with God before you became an atheist.
You don’t want to take responsibility for losing your faith and are instead going down a rabbit hole of semantics.
@pb1022 saidHow hard I struggled to hang on to my faith or how little I did; how many days and weeks and months of contemplation or how few there were; how many people I went to for counsel or how few there were; how many conversations into the night I had about it or how few I had; how much I prayed or how little I did; none of it is any of your business.
You, by that statement, seem to feel you have no role in keeping your faith - faith, to you it seems, is like a breeze that blows one way and blows another.
@pb1022 saidAs for what went on when I was a Christian or during the period my faith slipped away, what I did to "cultivate" it or what I did not to "cultivate" it, or what I did to "grow" it or what I didn't do to "grow" it, is all personal information, and as such it is none of your business.
That’s why I asked - and you refused to answer - whether you made any choices regarding how much to cultivate and grow in your relationship with God before you became an atheist.
@pb1022 saidI take full responsibility for what I believed when I was a Christian. I take full responsibility for whatever I believed during the five-year process as my faith slipped away. I take full responsibility for what I believe now.
You don’t want to take responsibility for losing your faith and are instead going down a rabbit hole of semantics.
@fmf saidDidn’t ask for anything beyond a Yes or No answer, which was perfectly appropriate for the question I asked.
As for what went on when I was a Christian or during the period my faith slipped away, what I did to "cultivate" it or what I did not to "cultivate" it, or what I did to "grow" it or what I didn't do to "grow" it, is all personal information, and as such it is none of your business.
Your implication that I asked for personal information is a lie and you know it.