14 Aug 11
TEXT 40
ajnas casraddadhanas ca
samsayatma vinasyati
nayam loko 'sti na paro
na sukham samsayatmanah
SYNONYMS
ajnah--fools who have no knowledge in standard scriptures; ca--and; asraddadhanah--without faith in revealed scriptures; ca--also; samsaya--doubts; atma--a person; vinasyati--falls back; na--never; ayam--this; lokah--world; asti--there is; na--neither; parah--next life; na--not; sukham--happiness; samsaya--doubtful; atmanah--of the person.
TRANSLATION
The ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures do not attain God consciousness. For the doubting soul there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next.
14 Aug 11
Originally posted by DasaAre you an Australian or an Indian?
TEXT 40
ajnas casraddadhanas ca
samsayatma vinasyati
nayam loko 'sti na paro
na sukham samsayatmanah
SYNONYMS
ajnah--fools who have no knowledge in standard scriptures; ca--and; asraddadhanah--without faith in revealed scriptures; ca--also; samsaya--doubts; atma--a person; vinasyati--falls back; na--never; ayam--this; lokah--world; asti--there is ...[text shortened]... consciousness. For the doubting soul there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next.
14 Aug 11
Originally posted by Dasathe faithless person who doubts which 'revealed' scriptures?
TEXT 40
ajnas casraddadhanas ca
samsayatma vinasyati
nayam loko 'sti na paro
na sukham samsayatmanah
SYNONYMS
ajnah--fools who have no knowledge in standard scriptures; ca--and; asraddadhanah--without faith in revealed scriptures; ca--also; samsaya--doubts; atma--a person; vinasyati--falls back; na--never; ayam--this; lokah--world; asti--there is ...[text shortened]... consciousness. For the doubting soul there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next.
14 Aug 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritGod is one and therefore religion is one.
the faithless person who doubts which 'revealed' scriptures?
In this world there are thousands of pseudo religions.
However there is only one true bonafide religion.
That religion is the eternal and original religion described in the Vedas. (Vaisnavism)
The Vedas have been with mankind for eternity coming to mankind at the beginning of every new cosmic manifestation.
Religion cannot come along in recent times as it has done with Christianity Islam and Judaism for these are fabrications from the minds of unqualified unenlightened persons...........proof of that is that these new religions teach falsity.
14 Aug 11
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Originally posted by DasaReincarnation is Hindu stuff.
You know very well I do not get involved with (quote) Hindu stuff as you have said.
From Wikipedia on "Reincarnation":
This doctrine is a central tenet within the majority of Indian religious traditions, such as Hinduism, Jainism, and Sikhism; the Buddhist concept of rebirth is also often referred to as reincarnation.
14 Aug 11
Originally posted by DasaHow is your vainism different from Hinduism?
God is one and therefore religion is one.
In this world there are thousands of pseudo religions.
However there is only one true bonafide religion.
That religion is the eternal and original religion described in the Vedas. (Vaisnavism)
The Vedas have been with mankind for eternity coming to mankind at the beginning of every new cosmic manifestation. ...[text shortened]... alified unenlightened persons...........proof of that is that these new religions teach falsity.
15 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHindsheaven and hell are hellenistic stuff.
Reincarnation is Hindu stuff.
From Wikipedia on "Reincarnation":
This doctrine is a central tenet within the majority of Indian religious traditions, such as Hinduism, Jainism, and Sikhism; the Buddhist concept of rebirth is also often referred to as reincarnation.
15 Aug 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsHinduism does not have a monopoly on reincarnation although it appears so.
Reincarnation is Hindu stuff.
From Wikipedia on "Reincarnation":
This doctrine is a central tenet within the majority of Indian religious traditions, such as Hinduism, Jainism, and Sikhism; the Buddhist concept of rebirth is also often referred to as reincarnation.
The word Hinduism is a recent word concocted in recent times.
I separate myself from Hinduism because it carries with it many misunderstandings of true spiritualism.
True spiritualism is non sectarian and to qualify for true spiritualism you only need to be a human being.
Vaisnavism is the essence of true spirituality.
Hinduism is not.
15 Aug 11
Originally posted by DasaSo is true spiritualism, you can just decide to be spiritual and you are spiritual. No middle men needed, no books of ancient wisdom. Only your own recognition of your own spiritual nature. I don't think you need to bend yourself in prayer to some god 10 times a day to be spiritual, just feel natural wonder all around you, that is all you need. Expand your mind to feel the universe. You are then spiritual. Forget the ancient wisdom and all the crap about humans being here for billions of years. That is just so much hogwash, dingo dung.
Hinduism does not have a monopoly on reincarnation although it appears so.
The word Hinduism is a recent word concocted in recent times.
I separate myself from Hinduism because it carries with it many misunderstandings of true spiritualism.
True spiritualism is non sectarian and to qualify for true spiritualism you only need to be a human being.
Vaisnavism is the essence of true spirituality.
Hinduism is not.
15 Aug 11
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Originally posted by sonhouseEvery living thing is already spiritual.
So is true spiritualism, you can just decide to be spiritual and you are spiritual. No middle men needed, no books of ancient wisdom. Only your own recognition of your own spiritual nature. I don't think you need to bend yourself in prayer to some god 10 times a day to be spiritual, just feel natural wonder all around you, that is all you need. Expand your ...[text shortened]... e crap about humans being here for billions of years. That is just so much hogwash, dingo dung.
Eternally spiritual and you cannot change that.
But if you don't recognize your spirituality then you will remain ignorant and will not pursue enlightment which is absolutely necessary to turn ignorance of God into realization of God and love of God.
If you love God right now with a pure heart and I don't mean a flimmzy idea of God through sentiment....... But the true cognition of the one and only true God then you don't need anything at all because you will go to God upon your death.
And leaving this temporary world of suffering and returning to God is the goal of religion.
15 Aug 11
Originally posted by sonhouseIf Dasa is right then, as I understand it, you don't have anything to
So is true spiritualism, you can just decide to be spiritual and you are spiritual. No middle men needed, no books of ancient wisdom. Only your own recognition of your own spiritual nature. I don't think you need to bend yourself in prayer to some god 10 times a day to be spiritual, just feel natural wonder all around you, that is all you need. Expand your ...[text shortened]... e crap about humans being here for billions of years. That is just so much hogwash, dingo dung.
worry about because you will just be reincarnated over and over again
until you become a member of the Godhead. How wonderful it sounds.
So if you don't want to believe now that is okay because you will have
plenty of lives to live to get it right.
15 Aug 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsKind of like a subroutine in a large program getting lost in a side memory chip, then later getting reunited with the main megabyte program again, eh.
If Dasa is right then, as I understand it, you don't have anything to
worry about because you will just be reincarnated over and over again
until you become a member of the Godhead. How wonderful it sounds.
So if you don't want to believe now that is okay because you will have
plenty of lives to live to get it right.
Humans are cosmic subroutines destined to be played over and over again till the program self realizes itself and joins the big picture.
Dasa, don't worry, I have just as much disdain for RJHinds brand of bullshyte too.