Originally posted by RBHILL how about the gift of tongues and people rising from the dead and muslims that are having dreams of Jesus without ever knowing of who he is.
... the Bible predicted that blacks would be slaves.
Originally posted by twhitehead To add to rwingett's comment, why would a Christian be any more capable of reading and understanding the Bible than an atheist or agnostic? Are we even talking about Biblical events and ideas or are we talking about events and ideas as interpreted by Christians after reading the Bible?
Actually, my read on the OP was that he needed to know exactly what in the videos was insulting to Christians.
Sounds like you'd have to be a Christian to know. Simple enough.
Originally posted by Suzianne Actually, my read on the OP was that he needed to know exactly what in the videos was insulting to Christians.
Sounds like you'd have to be a Christian to know. Simple enough.
But his claim was that this was an atheist deliberately insulting. So apparently no, you don't have to be a Christian to know. In fact, to judge whether he was being deliberately insulting, it might be better to understand his point of view - so asking atheists is more likely to get a valid result.
Originally posted by twhitehead But his claim was that this was an atheist deliberately insulting. So apparently no, you don't have to be a Christian to know. In fact, to judge whether he was being deliberately insulting, it might be better to understand his point of view - so asking atheists is more likely to get a valid result.
I'd suggest that an athiest is predisposed not to see what may be insulting to thiests, i may be wrong though.
Originally posted by twhitehead Well then the accused atheist must be innocent surely? Or at least he is destined to fail at any attempts to insult.
After watching the video, I'm inclined to agree that he's being deliberately insulting. He's not just presenting his argument, he's using language designed to shock and insult. Showing the character in this video teaching kids his viewpoint with the language is also meant to shock and insult. I'm also guessing that being an atheist isn't quite as fun as when you can get that shocked look on the face of Christians.
Originally posted by Suzianne After watching the video, I'm inclined to agree that he's being deliberately insulting. He's not just presenting his argument, he's using language designed to shock and insult. Showing the character in this video teaching kids his viewpoint with the language is also meant to shock and insult. I'm also guessing that being an atheist isn't quite as fun as when you can get that shocked look on the face of Christians.
I urge you to watch more than one so you can balance the one that made me sit up with his other work.
Originally posted by Suzianne After watching the video, I'm inclined to agree that he's being deliberately insulting. He's not just presenting his argument, he's using language designed to shock and insult. Showing the character in this video teaching kids his viewpoint with the language is also meant to shock and insult. I'm also guessing that being an atheist isn't quite as fun as when you can get that shocked look on the face of Christians.
But you claimed that as an atheist he probably would not know what is insulting to Christians. Did he do better than you expected?
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was deliberately aiming to shock and insult. That is a surprisingly popular way to try and get a point across - though I must admit it is usually unsuccessful as Vishva eventually found out eventually (it took him quite a while to realize it).
I recently challenged a theist for calling atheists arrogant and foolish and he admitted that his main aim was to shock and insult in the hope of convincing agnostics to stay away from atheism.
Having said all that, there are stories in the Bible that are definitely shocking, and I really cannot think of a way of pointing out some the things I see as errors or problems with Christianity without indirectly at least insulting Christians for believing it. (I can't even say that without feeling I might have just insulted you - though that was definitely not the intention).
Originally posted by twhitehead But you claimed that as an atheist he probably would not know what is insulting to Christians. Did he do better than you expected?
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was deliberately aiming to shock and insult. That is a surprisingly popular way to try and get a point across - though I must admit it is usually unsuccessful as Vishva eventually found ...[text shortened]... ithout feeling I might have just insulted you - though that was definitely not the intention).
I will post the links after i have recieved responses from the guys i sent the links to. Then, you can see it for yourself and make your decision for yourself.
I first sought the opinoin of christians because i wanted to know if my theory was correct.
Originally posted by huckleberryhound I have been having an argument with someone who makes athiest videos, and i've been arguing that he is unfairly depicting christian/biblical events and ideas to parody and insult...He has asked for specifics on what is insulting, and i'm only guessing (being agnostic myself)...Is there a christian or two here that would help me out by watching a few ...[text shortened]... vids and giving me their opinions please?
PM me please if you're willing to help.
Huck
Tell him that what he needs to do, to be consistant, is do similar videos about the Koran and Hadith. My guess is that he much prefers picking on Christians. Simply put, it's just a lot more fun picking on a group of people who don't fight back. If he says no, just tell him he is no better than a typical bully at any given school. It's only when someone punches you square in the face that you begin to learn a little respect I suppose.
Originally posted by RBHILL how about the gift of tongues and people rising from the dead and muslims that are having dreams of Jesus without ever knowing of who he is.
I know you said to not use the Bible, but the Bible predicted that blacks would be slaves.
Hey there RBHILL. Did you know that the screen name 'vishvahetu' has now become available........just saying.
17 Feb '11 19:17
Calling on a few christians to help me out.
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