@divegeester
It is sad that you are such a lonely isolated cowardly type getting along with no others that open up a Bible in faith.
An cautious isolated Unitarian Lone Ranger who tried to solicit an Atheist as your sidekick, your faithful Tanto. Very sad.
So why are you so reluctant to tell us where you have ever met and with whom ?? Get rejected ?
Please feel free to start a thread on the topic of your suspicions about me sonship.
Whats wrong with THIS Thread to do so, where YOU called ME?
You said it was one of your two favorites.
So deal with you being responded to back.
Just because you say you never got and answer doesn't mean you never got an answer.
You're Unitarian rejection of the full deity of Christ is being exposed unless you can tell us why the Son of God will one day not have the office of the Son of God.
Bringing Divbegeeser's Unitarianism out of the shadows of ambiguity.
Unitarianism is the belief that God exists in one person, not three. It is a denial of the doctrine of the Trinity as well as the full divinity of Jesus. Therefore, it is not Christian. There are several groups that fall under this umbrella: Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphianism, The Way International, etc. Another term for this type of belief is called Monarchianism.
From CARM
The General Convention of the Unitarian Universalists formulated the five principles of the Universalist Faith in 1899.
The Universal Fatherhood of God
The spiritual authority and leadership of His Son Jesus Christ
The trustworthiness of the Bible as containing a revelation from God
The certainty of just retribution for sin
The final harmony of all souls with God
Additional beliefs generally held by Unitarian Universalists are:
Salvation is by grace through faith and not by works in any way.
Jesus became the Son of God at His baptism.
The Holy Spirit is not a person, does not have a will, etc.
There now is and will be rewards and punishments according to one's actions but this does not consist of the traditional doctrine of hell.
Human reason and experience should be the final authority in determining spiritual truth.
https://carm.org/what-unitarianism
-Removed-Deflecting again.
Why can't you address the points I made in my post? After all, the post of yours above is virtually identical to your OP.
The reason is obvious. You simply can't because you don't know how, because you're completely unfamiliar with the text of scripture.
I posted a perfectly civil response to your post, but instead of replying honestly to my points you resort to deflection and innuendo, implying that I used the Holy Word of God as a weapon.
Extremely distasteful, dishonest and disgraceful. The opportunity was there for you to demonstrate some decorum and integrity, but you blew it.
I have fellowship on a regular basis, and quite a lot more recently.
I think you have traveled around and been unhappy with every group you tried to have fellowship with. I wonder if you're soon going to leave them too in a huff, never referring to who they are and where they meet ?
You haven't fallen out with the leaders there yet? Corporate religion is not for you. Right ?
Can we see their Statement of Faith please?
@divegeester
I already told you how I thought you were wrongly exploiting that paragraph. And I already told you how you ignore other things written in the book which counter balance the honest reader so as not to misunderstand the hope, emphasis, and practice of local churches in leading people to Christ.
If you plug your ears up and shut tight your eyes I should have to repeat what I wrote many times again.
You can plug your ears and shut tight your eyes and insist that you be answered for the rest of your life if you think it proves something.
You said you have no desire to have fellowship with a cult which you have already decided any of the local churches are. So YOU have excluded yourself from wanting fellowship and cut us off. You were not refused to partake of fellowship.
You put yourself outside of the possibility of it. That is hypocritical, divisive, sectarian.
I think you have repeated that history where ever you find any groups.
I suppose you'll continue to ignore the clear writing of that publication under Concerning Salvation .
In the section entitled Concerning Salvation we read these specific words -
In order to be saved, one must have a living contact with Jesus Christ. Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize prayer and calling on the name of the Lord. According to Romans 10:9 and 10, if a man is to be saved, he must believe in his heart and confess with his mouth.
Once a person has been saved, he may have both the assurance of salvation and the security of salvation. Once we are saved, we are saved forever.
Sounds like Romans 10:9,10 to me.
I referred to these facts above more than once in this thread.
Only God knows if you really believe in your heart that Jesus is the living Lord, YOUR Lord, raised from the dead. Only you and God know if you have that in your heat for sure.
You may mouth doctrinal formulas and doctrinal creeds to agree or disagree. The writers realized this so they emphasized the living Person of Jesus.
Shut your eyes tight again and close your ears tight again. Here is comes, right in that very book you ridicule:
”In order to be saved, one must have a living faith in the Person and work of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
In order to be saved, one must have a living contact with Jesus Christ. Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize prayer and calling on the name of the Lord. According to Romans 10:9 and 10, if a man is to be saved, he must believe in his heart and confess with his mouth.
Divegeester, How come it didn't say this?
" Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize any number of recitations of creedal statements or formulas about the doctrine of the Trinity" .
Why did it say this?
"Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize prayer and calling on the name of the Lord. "