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Originally posted by Grampy Bobbywhy is "an argument" in quotes?
when is "an argument" won?
when should an argument be in quotes?
when, what, how. why bare you so stupid?
Originally posted by ZahlanziThere are some arguments that have essences that are along the lines of:
who decides who won? what does "winning" ensue?
if you measure success by "getting your opponent to change his mind" you must reevaluate the reasons why you debate.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThere are several ways in which 'an argument' can be 'won' in given contexts.
when is "an argument" won?
Originally posted by CalJustI can readily admit to having been convinced by people on this site that the
Actually, what intrigues me more is whether ANYONE will admit to having been convinced by ANYONE, atheist or theist alike!
Looks to me that the SAME arguments are being propsed ad nauseum, (e.g. creation vs evolution) with the same predictable responses on both sides, and the inevitable unsatisfactory conclusion.
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Originally posted by googlefudgeWere these all spiritual/religious related matters? Is there any topic that a theist could change your mind on or are you only open to atheist point of views?
I can readily admit to having been convinced by people on this site that the
position I previously held was wrong/incomplete/ect...
However the people that changed my mind were other atheists.
Originally posted by divegeesterThey were philosophical matters.
Were these all spiritual/religious related matters? Is there any topic that a theist could change your mind on or are you only open to atheist point of views?
Originally posted by googlefudgeUnderstood.
They were philosophical matters.
I am open to having my mind changed by anyone, about just about anything.
They just have to base their argument on evidence and sound logic/reasoning.
I believe that it is proven beyond all reasonable doubt that gods don't exist, but
if anyone has evidence that proves me wrong then I am open to that.
Originally posted by CalJustOriginally posted by CalJust
Actually, what intrigues me more is whether ANYONE will admit to having been convinced by ANYONE, atheist or theist alike!
Looks to me that the SAME arguments are being propsed ad nauseum, (e.g. creation vs evolution) with the same predictable responses on both sides, and the inevitable unsatisfactory conclusion.
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Originally posted by FMFyes, this is in a real, structured debate, with an impartial moderator.
There are some arguments that have essences that are along the lines of:
A: You have contradicted yourself. B: No I haven't.
A: You were saying something different before. B: No I wasn't.
A: What you are saying doesn't make sense. B: Yes it does.
A: That piece of evidence does not support your assertion. B: Yes it does.
In these kinds of arguments ...[text shortened]... s the fact that there is never any definitive or unanimous pronouncement of who the "winner" is.