Capitalism is more Christian than Socialism

Capitalism is more Christian than Socialism

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
"The truth will make you free".
"The truth will set you free but first it will piss you off." -M. Pancoast

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Originally posted by RJHinds
If you knew the truth when you hear it. 😏
From what I can tell, you have a seriously self-centered idea of 'truth'. Not so with the teachings of Jesus.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"The truth will set you free but first it will piss you off." -M. Pancoast
You should reflect on what pissed you off.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
From what I can tell, you have a seriously self-centered idea of 'truth'. Not so with the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus said, "I am the truth." So how more self-centered can one get about truth?

HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Jesus said, "I am the truth." So how more self-centered can one get about truth?

HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Your selfish desires are antithetical to the truth of which Jesus spoke.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Your selfish desires are antithetical to the truth of which Jesus spoke.
I suppose you think your selfish desires are much better that others then.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I suppose you think your selfish desires are much better that others then.
Please try to understand things in the context in which they are said.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Please try to understand things in the context in which they are said.
Yeah, why don't you? 😏

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Yeah, why don't you? 😏
You are such a terrible example of how a Christian should live. Not only that, but you argue like a child, perhaps you are extremely young, and thus have reason to argue like one?

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Originally posted by dunetwo
You are such a terrible example of how a Christian should live. Not only that, but you argue like a child, perhaps you are extremely young, and thus have reason to argue like one?
Perhaps I need make my arguments even more simple for you. Most people are like you and do not understan spiritual matters and I am forced to come down to their level. But I have not got down to baby talk yet.

You are quick to judge what you don't know or understand. Perhaps you would be better to open your eyes and ears and try to learn something. 😏

HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Quite frankly, I'm still not sure what point RJ is trying to make. He refuses to say.

[b] read the talents parable again and you will see that the third worker did exactly that and he upset the "master".


You lost me here. "Did exactly" what?[/b]
"exactly that" meaning he followed the teachings and only that. he failed to multiply the "money" or talents his master gave him and simply preserved them. i am of the opinion it can either mean he disrespected the gifts (ie: intelligence, perseverance, charisma) god gave him by not putting them to good use, or he lived according to christian principles but he didn't try to help others do the same, thus multiplying the talents.


i am sure some might find some other meaning to the talents parable that i haven't thought of, however i am sure that rjhinds' interpretation that the parable is a praise to capitalism, how the talents represent actual wealth, how the master (jesus, god) will only reward those that leave the world with more money than they had, even though numerous times jesus warns against putting too much worth in material wealth, all of these interpretations are childish and lacking imagination and reason, to put it lightly.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"The truth will set you free but first it will piss you off." -M. Pancoast
Truth can indeed piss people off...
As well as Lies, Justin Bieber, taps that come on suddenly and soak your crotch while on your first date,
Justin Bieber, Birthers, Ants in your picnic, and Justin Bieber...


So the fact that something pisses you off is not really a good indication that it's true.

It might just be Justin Bieber...




I really shouldn't post things this late at night.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
"exactly that" meaning he followed the teachings and only that. he failed to multiply the "money" or talents his master gave him and simply preserved them. i am of the opinion it can either mean he disrespected the gifts (ie: intelligence, perseverance, charisma) god gave him by not putting them to good use, or he lived according to christian principles b these interpretations are childish and lacking imagination and reason, to put it lightly.
Upon reflection what I should have said was that Jesus was speaking of gaining understanding of His teachings in order to follow them.

I'll try to explain why.

The Parable of the Talents elaborates on the following:
Matthew 13
10And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11Jesus answered them, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. 12“For whoever has, to him more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has shall be taken away from him. 13“Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.


Above Jesus is explaining how understanding of the 'mysteries of the kingdom of heaven' (His teachings) is gained.

Matthew 25
15“To one he gave five talents, to another, two, and to another, one, each according to his own ability; and he went on his journey...
29“For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away.

Note how Matthew 13:12 and Matthew 25:19 use very similar verbiage.

The Parable of the Talents also incorporates the following:
Matthew 7
7“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8“For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.


The third slave did not "seek" as he was afraid. As such he did not "grow" his understanding (talents). So he was thrown "into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." The other two did "seek" to "grow" their understanding and were rewarded with more understanding.

Read back through the Parable of the Talents with the above in mind. It reads much more cleanly than the idea of "spreading the word" or not living up to ones potential in the world.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
"exactly that" meaning he followed the teachings and only that. he failed to multiply the "money" or talents his master gave him and simply preserved them. i am of the opinion it can either mean he disrespected the gifts (ie: intelligence, perseverance, charisma) god gave him by not putting them to good use, or he lived according to christian principles b ...[text shortened]... these interpretations are childish and lacking imagination and reason, to put it lightly.
I have come to realize that trying to explain the Holy Bible to you numbnuts is like trying to explain differential calculus to an infant.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Perhaps I need make my arguments even more simple for you. Most people are like you and do not understan spiritual matters and I am forced to come down to their level. But I have not got down to baby talk yet.

You are quick to judge what you don't know or understand. Perhaps you would be better to open your eyes and ears and try to learn something. 😏

HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The only thing you are making is a fool of yourself!
There is zero reason in what you've said here, stop pretending to follow Jesus,
and get real!