20 Mar 10
Originally posted by 667joeI disagree. I am absolutely certain this post contains the letter 'z'
To be absolutely certain about something, one must know everything or nothing about it.
1) I know that this response is a post; hence I know more than nothing about "this post contains the letter 'z'"
2) I do not know *precisely* (in terms of cm and mm) where the first 'z' occurs relative to the top left corner of my viewable screen; hence I know less than everything about "this post contains the letter 'z'"
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20 Mar 10
Originally posted by AgergActually, when you typed your response, you didn't really 'know' anything about how it would appear; you simply assumed all would go as planned, as well as assumed how it would appear to any one else viewing it.
I disagree. I am absolutely certain this post contains the letter 'z'
1) I know that this response is a post; hence I know more than nothing about "this post contains the letter 'z'"
2) I do not know [b]*precisely* (in terms of cm and mm) where the first 'z' occurs relative to the top left corner of my viewable screen; hence I know less than everything about "this post contains the letter 'z'"
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20 Mar 10
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHPerhaps, but what one writes here becomes a post only once it has been posted. So to say I know this post has a 'z' in it makes sense only once it has been posted.
Actually, when you typed your response, you didn't really 'know' anything about how it would appear; you simply assumed all would go as planned, as well as assumed how it would appear to any one else viewing it.
It has now been posted, and so when the 667joe looks in on this thread (which will be after I posted it); it will be at a time when I am absolutely certain it contains a 'z'
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20 Mar 10
Originally posted by AgergI see you know of what you speak! (which is more than I can say for the theists who participate in this forum.)
Perhaps, but what one writes here becomes a post only once it has been posted. So to say I know this [b]post has a 'z' in it makes sense only once it has been posted.
It has now been posted, and so when the 667joe looks in on this thread (which will be after I posted it); it will be at a time when I am absolutely certain it contains a 'z'
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21 Mar 10
Originally posted by AgergBut your post was in the present tense, and when you wrote it, that certainty was heavily dependent upon the future.
Perhaps, but what one writes here becomes a post only once it has been posted. So to say I know this [b]post has a 'z' in it makes sense only once it has been posted.
It has now been posted, and so when the 667joe looks in on this thread (which will be after I posted it); it will be at a time when I am absolutely certain it contains a 'z'
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21 Mar 10
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHThat's why I acknowledged your response with "perhaps".
But your post was in the present tense, and when you wrote it, that certainty was heavily dependent upon the future.
However even though one might argue it wasn't a valid statement before I posted it (for reasons pertaining both to your objection and the fact it wasn't a post at that stage) it is certainly a post now (as I suspected it would be)...and by inspection we see it has a 'z'.
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