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Certainty

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To be absolutely certain about something, one must know everything or nothing about it.

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Originally posted by 667joe
To be absolutely certain about something, one must know everything or nothing about it.
Certainly.

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Originally posted by 667joe
To be absolutely certain about something, one must know everything or nothing about it.
We humans are a fearful lot

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
We humans are a fearful lot
THere is nothing to fear, but fear itself.....wait a second, thats just plain stupid isn't it? 😛 I will add, we are also a plain stupid lot.

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Originally posted by whodey
THere is nothing to fear, but fear itself.....wait a second, thats just plain stupid isn't it? 😛 I will add, we are also a plain stupid lot.
😀 ...your alright!

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Originally posted by 667joe
To be absolutely certain about something, one must know everything or nothing about it.
I disagree. I am absolutely certain this post contains the letter 'z'

1) I know that this response is a post; hence I know more than nothing about "this post contains the letter 'z'"
2) I do not know *precisely* (in terms of cm and mm) where the first 'z' occurs relative to the top left corner of my viewable screen; hence I know less than everything about "this post contains the letter 'z'"

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Originally posted by Agerg
I disagree. I am absolutely certain this post contains the letter 'z'

1) I know that this response is a post; hence I know more than nothing about "this post contains the letter 'z'"
2) I do not know [b]*precisely* (in terms of cm and mm) where the first 'z' occurs relative to the top left corner of my viewable screen; hence I know less than everything about "this post contains the letter 'z'"

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Actually, when you typed your response, you didn't really 'know' anything about how it would appear; you simply assumed all would go as planned, as well as assumed how it would appear to any one else viewing it.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Actually, when you typed your response, you didn't really 'know' anything about how it would appear; you simply assumed all would go as planned, as well as assumed how it would appear to any one else viewing it.
Perhaps, but what one writes here becomes a post only once it has been posted. So to say I know this post has a 'z' in it makes sense only once it has been posted.

It has now been posted, and so when the 667joe looks in on this thread (which will be after I posted it); it will be at a time when I am absolutely certain it contains a 'z'

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Originally posted by Agerg
Perhaps, but what one writes here becomes a post only once it has been posted. So to say I know this [b]post has a 'z' in it makes sense only once it has been posted.

It has now been posted, and so when the 667joe looks in on this thread (which will be after I posted it); it will be at a time when I am absolutely certain it contains a 'z'

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I see you know of what you speak! (which is more than I can say for the theists who participate in this forum.)

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Originally posted by Agerg
Perhaps, but what one writes here becomes a post only once it has been posted. So to say I know this [b]post has a 'z' in it makes sense only once it has been posted.

It has now been posted, and so when the 667joe looks in on this thread (which will be after I posted it); it will be at a time when I am absolutely certain it contains a 'z'

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But your post was in the present tense, and when you wrote it, that certainty was heavily dependent upon the future.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
But your post was in the present tense, and when you wrote it, that certainty was heavily dependent upon the future.
That's why I acknowledged your response with "perhaps".

However even though one might argue it wasn't a valid statement before I posted it (for reasons pertaining both to your objection and the fact it wasn't a post at that stage) it is certainly a post now (as I suspected it would be)...and by inspection we see it has a 'z'.

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