05 Dec 21
A problem that some evangelists might have when trying to convert the Spider Crystals of Arcturus is that some of them are already listening on all frequencies – including the Christ channel – but all of them are immobile so there's not that much trouble they can get into other than thought-crimes (which just don't happen in their culture).
So are they damned for Eternity, or what?
05 Dec 21
@kevin-eleven saidYeah,....wait, what?
A problem that some evangelists might have when trying to convert the Spider Crystals of Arcturus is that some of them are already listening on all frequencies – including the Christ channel – but all of them are immobile so there's not that much trouble they can get into other than thought-crimes (which just don't happen in their culture).
So are they damned for Eternity, or what?
As an aside, if the number 666 is considered evil then 25.8069758 is the root of all evil.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidClever, Ghost.
Yeah,....wait, what?
As an aside, if the number 666 is considered evil then 25.8069758 is the root of all evil.
Love of money’s the root of all evil.
So if you love having $25 and change in your pocket, that’d be evil (by your way of thinking.)
05 Dec 21
@pb1022 saidTwo things are holding us back as a species, one being subservient to our own imagined deities and the other humanity's greatest frailty, greed. (I would include 'power' as well as money). It's the reason socialism doesn't work with humans, on a fundamental level, not wanting to be entirely equal. (Resulting in corruption etc.)
Clever, Ghost.
Love of money’s the root of all evil.
So if you love having $25 and change in your pocket, that’d be evil (by your way of thinking.)
This weakness will hopefully evolve out of us in the coming centuries, as long as we are not wiped out by an asteroid. (On Saturday the 330m-long asteroid 4660 Nereus will break into Earth's orbit. Fingers crossed.)
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThanks for info on that asteroid; first I’m hearing of it.
Two things are holding us back as a species, one being subservient to our own imagined deities and the other humanity's greatest frailty, greed. (I would include 'power' as well as money). It's the reason socialism doesn't work with humans, on a fundamental level, not wanting to be entirely equal. (Resulting in corruption etc.)
This weakness will hopefully evolve ...[text shortened]... id. (On Saturday the 330m-long asteroid 4660 Nereus will break into Earth's orbit. Fingers crossed.)
But I believe your post is contradictory in that if one were truly subservient to God, one would not be greedy.
Man is greedy and corrupt by nature. That’s what man is without God.
@pb1022 saidThe problem is there are many Christians, transformed by the Holy Spirit, who continue to live a life motivated by greed. If you're looking for a contradiction, there you have it.
Thanks for info on that asteroid; first I’m hearing of it.
But I believe your post is contradictory in that if one were truly subservient to God, one would not be greedy.
Man is greedy and corrupt by nature. That’s what man is without God.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWe disagree on the source of man’s greed and corruption, but in your view, those traits appear irreversible. In my view of the source - abandoning God - they’re not irreversible.
Man is greedy and corrupt by nature because he evolved as a species. Greed and self interest were a means of survival.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThey obviously are not living in the Spirit if they are living a life motivated by greed.
The problem is there are many Christians, transformed by the Holy Spirit, who continue to live a life motivated by greed. If you're looking for a contradiction, there you have it.
@pb1022 saidNo, you haven't properly read what I wrote. Did I not say that in the coming centuries we may evolve out of such weaknesses? Did I not say that? How does that equate with greed being irreversible?
We disagree on the source of man’s greed and corruption, but in your view, those traits appear irreversible. In my view of the source - abandoning God - they’re not irreversible.
As stated, greed was in our nature as a means of survival. As we progress further as a species, hopefully these basic instinct will diminish and be eradicated.
@pb1022 saidI haven't met many Christians void of greed. Are all the ones succumbing to this human frailty fake Christians? Is that your position?
They obviously are not living in the Spirit if they are living a life motivated by greed.
Why doesn't 'living in the Spirit' entirely eradicated greed?!
@ghost-of-a-duke saidVoid of greed and living a life of greed are two different things.
I haven't met many Christians void of greed. Are all the ones succumbing to this human frailty fake Christians? Is that your position?
Why doesn't 'living in the Spirit' entirely eradicated greed?!
No Christian is perfect but a Christian who is living in the Spirit (also referred to as walking in the Spirit and keeping in step with the Spirit) will not be greedy.
Greed is a result of a Christian not trusting God - at least not trusting Him sufficiently.
@pb1022 saidWhy aren't Christians perfect when living in the Spirit? Isn't God perfect?
Void of greed and living a life of greed are two different things.
No Christian is perfect but a Christian who is living in the Spirit (also referred to as walking in the Spirit and keeping in step with the Spirit) will not be greedy.
Greed is a result of a Christian not trusting God - at least not trusting Him sufficiently.
05 Dec 21
@ghost-of-a-duke saidOh, Ok. I don’t think greed and corruption will ever leave the human race without God because that’s human nature.
No, you haven't properly read what I wrote. Did I not say that in the coming centuries we may evolve out of such weaknesses? Did I not say that? How does that equate with greed being irreversible?
As stated, greed was in our nature as a means of survival. As we progress further as a species, hopefully these basic instinct will diminish and be eradicated.
But I understand you think further evolution may cause those traits to diminish and be eradicated.
I disagree and one reason is I think humans without God place their faith in money as a means of security, and it seems many humans can never get enough, which shows how deficient money is as a source of security.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidBecause they’re also in the flesh.
Why aren't Christians perfect when living in the Spirit? Isn't God perfect?
The Apostle Paul talked about the struggle between the Spirit and the flesh in Galatians.