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Originally posted by NemesioFigures. Revelation is where the whole "war of the angels" nonsense was added, too. If they had picked the other Revelation or left this one out entirely, what kind of theology would Freaky have?
Revelation 20:11
EDIT: Revelation 20: 13 and they were judged every man according to their works.
I guess "every man" doesn't include "every man" according to Freaky.
Originally posted by no1marauderMore insightful insights from one without sight.
Figures. Revelation is where the whole "war of the angels" nonsense was added, too. If they had picked the other Revelation or left this one out entirely, what kind of theology would Freaky have?
EDIT: Revelation 20: 13 and they were judged every man according to their works.
I guess "every man" doesn't include "every man" according to Freaky.
Very insightful.
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHWhy don't you just answer the question? And reconcile it with this statement:
In context, the Bible means every word. Your point?
A rejection of Christ leaves you standing before Him at the Great White Throne Judgment, wherein your record of deeds is revealed.
You will then be judged according to your deeds, and your deeds will result in a certain level of righteousness. No matter the number, it won't be enough to garner compatibility with perfect, absolute righeousness.
Those who accept the work of Christ as though it is their own, do not face such judgment.
Originally posted by no1marauderI just did. Re-read my post. Or, better yet, read the entire passage and see if it doesn't clear up any confusion you may have. Once you have read the words 'lake of fire,' that should be enough to make the issue understandable (11-15).
Why don't you just answer the question?
Originally posted by no1marauderThere is a book, and then there are books. The book is the book of life. The books are the records of deeds. Given what is available just in this passage, 11-15, where would you prefer your name be found?
Why don't you just answer the question? And reconcile it with this statement:
A rejection of Christ leaves you standing before Him at the Great White Throne Judgment, wherein your record of deeds is revealed.
You will then be judged according to your deeds, and your deeds will result in a certain level of righteousness. No matter the number, ...[text shortened]... s.
Those who accept the work of Christ as though it is their own, do not face such judgment.
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHI have no confusion. The passage is incompatible with your statement from the prior page. Therefore, since you say both the Bible is true in every word but then make statements contradicting its express words, it is you who are, at best, confused.
I just did. Re-read my post. Or, better yet, read the entire passage and see if it doesn't clear up any confusion you may have. Once you have read the words 'lake of fire,' that should be enough to make the issue understandable (11-15).
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHSo "every man" doesn't mean "every man"? Where are the limiting phrases?
There is a book, and then there are books. The book is the book of life. The books are the records of deeds. Given what is available just in this passage, 11-15, where would you prefer your name be found?
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHAll sin is paid for correct, but that does not mean that everyone is
As all sin was paid for with the work of Christ on the cross ("It is finished," was a perfect tense: established in the past, worked in the present, holds true forever), there is but one issue, one test that is before man. That issue is belief/acceptance of that work on behalf of man.
Nothing separates man from the love of God in Christ Jesus... no work ...[text shortened]... asing what God has accomplished in Jesus Christ. The issue is nonmeritorious faith, not work.
going to take that righteiousness offered by God, instead they are
going to stand in their own, some demand to do so. It isn't that the
price was not paid, but one must accept Christ, without that it is their
own righteousness they stand before God in. Now if their
righteousness is good enough, well that is all fine and good, but if
anyone who stands infront of God does so with sin in their lives they
will pay for it, and that sin will cause them to stand before God
condemned.
It would be like if there was a huge ship at sea that is sinking in
icy water with enough life boats for everyone. Those that reject the
boats will go down with the ship and die in the cold water. Now
what will kill them, the water. The fact that there was a way to
avoid that death is sad that they didn't take it, but the end result
will be what they did will cause them to go where they are headed.
We can get prepared to meet God, or not, either way we are going
to meet God and give an account.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayThis crap again. If you said to the people on the ship, "worship me or you can't get in the lifeboats" even though there was an infinite amount of room, don't you think you would be responsible for their deaths if they choose not to or never heard you?
All sin is paid for correct, but that does not mean that everyone is
going to take that righteiousness offered by God, instead they are
going to stand in their own and demand to do so. It isn't that the
price was not paid, but one must accept Christ, without that it is their
own righteousness they stand before God in. Now if their
righteousness is good ...[text shortened]... prepared to meet God, or not, either way we are going
to meet God and give an account.
Kelly
Originally posted by no1marauderWho said anything about worship or die...I said that the sin will kill
This crap again. If you said to the people on the ship, "worship me or you can't get in the lifeboats" even though there was an infinite amount of room, don't you think you would be responsible for their deaths if they choose not to or never heard you?
them, or if you are looking at the water story, the water will. You don't
think you should have to worship the creator of the universe who holds
everything together by the power of His Word, don't. God desires His
own to worship Him in spirit and truth. You do not want anything to
do with God avoid Him as long as you can, it is your choice, your will,
your desires, you can go as you will, and do as you will. Sin kills, and
if you are sinless, you have nothing to worry about.
Kelly